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halcyon posts: 26
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everybody's inconsistent. the question is, in what ways are you inconsistent, and does it make sense to be inconsistent in those ways? since christians were at their christian best while being persecuted by pagan empires, this seems to be less about ideology than personal idiosyncrasies. there are obviously marxists who don't want to lose their lives, like when brecht was caught. maybe these people are bad marxists, but most christians may be worse christians, by their own admission, than the missionaries you find all over the world, who share a lot in common with nietzschean "supermen" in being prepared to lay down their lives to pave the way for superman. i'm having difficulty believing that such christians are scarce in their homelands. (a list of christian outliers comparable to maoist jeff might be unhelpful at this point.)

yes, marxists may be statistically correlated with "people who want to die", because marxists believe more strongly than christians do these days. so, kill people with strong enough beliefs to endanger their lives for a cause (only don't)? either way, if most communists want to be killed to be saved in the same way many christians need to be annoyed to be saved, why not annoy christians too if it might help more of them find salvation? annoy christians (only don't)! i'm not sure where slave morality might fit into this, (if that's what pthagnar had been talking about) because it's usually thought that slaves are attached to life in unseemly ways. iirc, master morality is consequentialism, and slave morality is intention based, right? who is the master and who is the slave?

(moldbug, for instance, has clearly advocated slave morality. his whole idea is to build a city of god whose residents will be blessed with pure intentions, which will somehow magically be their salvation. (the pure intentions part is not even my interpretation. that's literally what he says.) his ideas do have some consequentialist or at least consequentialist-aspiring underpinnings, but ethical systems with no consequentialist dimension whatever are few and far between. moldbug realized that actual libertarian policies are not conducive to the maintenance of an earthly manifestation of the vision of a perfect society that he'd had as a libertarian, so now his thoughts represent a radicalized offshoot of the libertarian tradition that calls for increased government intervention to make sure everyone toes the line. how is this not slave morality?)