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? Nessari ?????? ?????? ????????
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, Illúbequía, Seattle, Cascadia
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quoting ObsequiousNewt:
Why, then, if I may ask?

It's hard to tell outside of actually using each of the distro/DE combinations which is the lesser evil for yourself; and reinstalling being the pain in the ass it is, sometimes we end up sticking with something we dislike (in my case Ubuntu's refusing to allow distro upgrades while any non-Canonical-approved repos are in use, plus several arcane UI/system glitches which make certain programs I run excruciating to use normally) for a time.
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, Layperson, California
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I use and enjoy arch. Frankly it's given me no trouble at all for like, several years now. Pacman is the best linux package manager.
? Nortaneous ? ?????
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, Marquis, Maryland
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unity is so fruity that my whole system grinds to a halt whenever i so much as hit alt-tab, and pacman >>> shit idiot garbage aptitude

did i ever tell y'all about how i managed to break my crunchbang install to the point where X uninstalled itself? i needed a version of transmission that wasn't literally years old because blah blah torrent feature technobabble, and this particular feature had only been added after the fucking clinton administration so naturally none of the repos had it. i went 'whatever', enabled the repo that had it, and bam, unresolvable cascade of dependency issues. transmission uninstalled gimp, reinstalling gimp uninstalled firefox, reinstalling firefox uninstalled a bunch of other shit, and this went on until X got wiped and i switched to archbang. which was a great OS until the arch devs reorganized everything for no reason and made it impossible to update without similar unresolvable cascades that, well, before i gave up on it i was reinstalling it every few days
? Nessari ?????? ?????? ????????
posts: 932
, Illúbequía, Seattle, Cascadia
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So

How and why is pacman better than aptitude? Genuine question.
? Rhetorica Sleepless Scribe
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, Kelatetía, Koitra, Illera
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quoting Nortaneous:
X uninstalled itself?

This is the exact opposite of what happens in Cygwin. After you install X... you can't go back. Ever. You have to nuke your computer from orbit.
? Nortaneous ? ?????
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, Marquis, Maryland
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quoting Nessari:
How and why is pacman better than aptitude? Genuine question.

1) Packages are much more likely to be up-to-date in pacman. Ubuntu and Debian are notorious for leaving very old versions of things in their repos; a lot of programs tell you to manually install things from their own sites instead of getting them from the aptitude repos, which totally goes against the point of having a package manager.
2) Between the official Arch repos and the AUR (pacman only deals with the official repos, but there's a pacman clone for the AUR... what did they replace yaourt with? packer?)... in the entire time I used Arch/Archbang, there was only one thing I had to install that wasn't in either the official repos or the AUR, and that was a font. Ubuntu has jack shit in its repos.
3) The syntax is slightly less annoying.

The downside of this is that Arch doesn't explicitly worry about stability like Ubuntu does, but in practice that's not too much of a problem.
? twabs fair maiden
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quoting Nortaneous:
1) Packages are much more likely to be up-to-date in pacman. Ubuntu and Debian are notorious for leaving very old versions of things in their repos; a lot of programs tell you to manually install things from their own sites instead of getting them from the aptitude repos, which totally goes against the point of having a package manager.

This. So much this. I mean, what's the point of having a package system if you're not going to be running the right version of things...

But I do like KDE. I can't say I've had that much difficulty with Kubuntu... most of my problems were my own idiocy.
? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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, Transition Metal, Germany
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quoting ObsequiousNewt:
But I do like KDE. I can't say I've had that much difficulty with Kubuntu... most of my problems were my own idiocy.

This. I've been running various versions of Ubuntu since Feisty.

? Rhetorica Sleepless Scribe
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, Kelatetía, Koitra, Illera
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I was a diehard KDE 3 user for the longest time... but I never managed to really accept KDE 4 into my life. These days I use GNOME Classic.
? Nessari ?????? ?????? ????????
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, Illúbequía, Seattle, Cascadia
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GNOME3 Fallback or one of the GNOME2 forks? Google has answered my question, door #1.

Also that sounds like Miekko. He fought the good fight, running ever-decaying and breaking KDE3-continuing repos, for the longest time. I can't recall what he's using now.
? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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, Transition Metal, Germany
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I don't like all the default silver/blue bling of KDE4 either, so this is what I ended up with now. Even on my 7 year-old lappy it performs OK – probably, XFCE or LXDE would be faster, but stuff is still running at reasonable speeds for webbrowsing and text editing and the occasional photo editing job. Also, I don't know what Miekko tried doing, but I don't really have trouble with KDE forgetting my settings all the time.
? Radius C / 2π
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, Hydrogen, United States
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I thought this was the happiness thread, not the bitching about linux thread...
? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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, Transition Metal, Germany
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Maybe Rhetorica can fork the bitching about Linux part off into a new thread?
? Nessari ?????? ?????? ????????
posts: 932
, Illúbequía, Seattle, Cascadia
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Well the Test Thread's kinda turned into the grrr thread…
? Nortaneous ? ?????
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, Marquis, Maryland
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Every thread is the bitching about Linux thread.
? twabs fair maiden
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I want my money back!

Oh, wait...
? Pthagnar Benedictine Ovulation
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, Quaestor, Hole of Aspiration
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XKCD is a good lunix discotheque
? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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, Transition Metal, Germany
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Window decorations and Qt: QtCurve with HexGrey theme (slightly modified)
Color scheme: HexGrey
Icons: Flamini
Font: Droid Sans, 9 pt
Plasma: Tilain
Wallpaper: "Because Spring, Also" by fiftyfootshadows.net
? Morrígan Witch Queen of New York
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In news entirely unrelated to *nix, one of my friends did my eyebrows, and gave me a brow powder kit that was too light for her, but seems perfect for me. So excited.

Also, there is apparently an organization in NY that does pro bono work and can help me get my name changed, and hopefully can tell me how to get my social security administration data updated.

On the downside, I then need to discuss with my security officer why I've submitted name-change paperwork.
? Izambri Left of the middle
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, Duke, Catatonia
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That image is like a microtale.