On the Jalvic Languages
2014-04-30 07:20:09
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On the Jalvic Languages

Nevermind anything, this is what I've been thinking about recently so this is what you're going to get.

The Jalvic languages are a family of languages spoken in the West of some continent in my world which I can't provide any details for. Prominent features include a large ratio of POA to MOA contrasts for both consonants and vowels, a generally agglutinative morphology (although the degree of synthesis falls pretty low on the one end of the continuum, but I can't attach any geographic term to this end because I haven't the faintest idea) as well as, um, I don't know. As far as the conworld is concerned it is one of the older and bigger language familes, although it is not supposed to be incredibly monumental in either spread or age.

The (external) history of the Jalvic languages started back in my young and innocent days when I had freshly entered high school, and for the first time discovered Tolkien. I had at this point already a lot of Latin and Ancient Greek under my belt, and when I read about Quenya I was inspired to make my own language. This language, although its original form no longer exists, was named Jalvaan[snip] (a spur-of-the-moment decision that has annoyed me ever since; even in the original IE-clone conlang the phoneme <j>, i.e. /dʒ/, was rare — occurring, apart from the root in the language name, only in "classive" endings of masculine nouns).

A few years later (two, I believe) I discovered that there were other people who also made up languages, and I joined a conlanging board. The resulting influx of linguistic information caused me to make a lot of redesigns to the original language, many of which were, by all standards, incredibly inferior to the first version — it was a rip-off, yes, but at least a more-or-less competent one. The same cannot be said of my brief forays into polysynthesis.


Ptéésjaa cje̦critmünàppeásaccuurittútcölsit.
[ˈpçéːɕjaː cɛçɹʲitvʏ̃nàfpjǽɕəxcuːɾɪθˈtúxkøjɕiç]
Ptéés-jaa cje̦c-rit-mün-a.peás-a.cur-it-tút.cöl-sit
Cat-TOP.DL action.on.body-EVID.hearsay-about-speak.IMPV.PST-be.black.IMPV.PST-relativiser.simple-tail.DL-3P.DL
Two black cats were discussing their tails:

Even discounting the worst monstrosities, though, enough material has accumulated for me to say that at this point I'd be better off just working it all into a family instead of making some other conlang and sticking the same name onto it; not in the least because apart from the original language all redesigns (again, bar the worst monstrosities) have mostly followed the same patterns.

The Jalvic family can hence be visualized as a continuum where one end is represented by the (normalized) original language, which is vaguely European, and the other end by a later redesign that is not very much so.

LabialDentalAlveolarPalatalVelar
Nasalmnŋ
Stopptk
Voiced Stopbdɡ
Fricativefθsʃx
Approximantʋr lj

Revised Phonology of the Original Jalvaan

LabialDentalAlveolarRetroflexPalatalVelar
Nasalmnɳɲŋ
Stopptʈck
Fricativefθsʂɕx
Approximantwð̠rɻjɦ

Phonology of a redesign

Many of the redesigns (the most extreme one shown here) share similar features, also phonologically, so that making them into a family should not be too hard. It helps that I have little in the way of any kind of grammar for most of them, with the notable exception of the original language that has tables of conjugation, declension, pro-forms and a dictionary; all of these, however, will necessarily have to be subject to at least some mangling in order to fit a possible proto-language.

Next up: Thoughts on Proto-Jalvic and the need for a language that could provide "Jalvic" as an English name.
Hallow XIII 9 years ago

Comments

9 years ago
No details at all? *sadnessaris*
I think the geographic term you're looking for is 'minorly/moderately isolating'. As for the family, so as far as age/size goes, ≈ precolonial Germanic?
Even dDiscounting…
How many branches are currently planned for Jalvic? Not necessarily meaning you have notes on, just overall. I hear you on the redesigns, I've been "in the process" of rebooting the Steppe branch of Shiffaractean (Drydic's original home) for about 4-5 years now.
OMG [ð̠] THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST AWESOME PHONEMES EVAR I<1.6mp deleted by sysop>
I do like the redone phonology. Perhaps a bit too symmetrical, but that's not unknown. Plus you came out right at the top with that so you're golden. What kind of vowels is it of having? Do you think you'll end up using the original mostly as-is as the proto-lang, and then just weird the daughters? Or weird the source up beforehand?

EXAMPLEZZZZZZZZZZZ

also MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
9 years ago
Age/size: Maybe more like Semitic?

I don't know whether I'm really going to have distinct branches rather than just a large dialect continuum. If I do, it will probably be three.

The proto-lang is probably going to be much more similar to the redesign than the original; mostly because it is easier to get there from the other end than if I tried expanding everything, which I would have to do if I used something like the original for the source language.