Woah. I've started a lexicon and some rules for a language family I'm working on, and...so elegant! so clear!
I haven't found any bugs yet, but if I do I'll let you know.
(I do have an idea for a feature that could be useful, though I don't know how easy it would be- would it be possible to tie adjacent rules together so that they run at the same time, so that you don't have to worry about their ordering? For example, I've got a vowel lowering rule in Quomonak where *i lowers to /e/ and all of *e *ɨ *o lower to /a/ before a coda *h. Normally, you have to write the rule governing *e *ɨ *o before you can write the rule governing *i, because otherwise you'll get a shift *i -> *e -> /a/. Obviously this is pretty easy to solve with judicious rule ordering or use of variables or an expanded rule set- but in more complicated cases it could be useful.)
EDIT- Wait, I'm using Windows command prompt...I have no idea what I'm doing, can someone give me a better rundown of how to open the thing?
EDIT2- What are the square brackets [ ] reserved for? They're listed as program-reserved characters, but I don't think it's mentioned in the manual what they're used for...
EDIT3- Can we do variable-to-variable transformations if the variables have the same number of segments in them? For example,
S = p t k
Z = b d g
V = a e i o u
S > Z / V_V
Is that a workable rule?
I haven't found any bugs yet, but if I do I'll let you know.
(I do have an idea for a feature that could be useful, though I don't know how easy it would be- would it be possible to tie adjacent rules together so that they run at the same time, so that you don't have to worry about their ordering? For example, I've got a vowel lowering rule in Quomonak where *i lowers to /e/ and all of *e *ɨ *o lower to /a/ before a coda *h. Normally, you have to write the rule governing *e *ɨ *o before you can write the rule governing *i, because otherwise you'll get a shift *i -> *e -> /a/. Obviously this is pretty easy to solve with judicious rule ordering or use of variables or an expanded rule set- but in more complicated cases it could be useful.)
EDIT- Wait, I'm using Windows command prompt...I have no idea what I'm doing, can someone give me a better rundown of how to open the thing?
EDIT2- What are the square brackets [ ] reserved for? They're listed as program-reserved characters, but I don't think it's mentioned in the manual what they're used for...
EDIT3- Can we do variable-to-variable transformations if the variables have the same number of segments in them? For example,
S = p t k
Z = b d g
V = a e i o u
S > Z / V_V
Is that a workable rule?
Hahah I was JUST thinking about that, because I was curious about JS Burke's Proto-Central-Mountain changes (he gave me an old copy of his rules and lexicon designed for mark's SCA) and I was curious how much more concise (and fast) it would be in my format. But I realized a bunch of his rules probably require this type of treatment. I think I know how to do that.
Ok, to run it: you should be able to just navigate to the folder it's in and run it using
Square brackets aren't reserved, per se but are parsed in a special way. They are intended for use with longer variable names, like in my Kuma-Koban examples, or phonetic features which will be supported in the next version (technically they are in THIS version, but I made it so you can't load them because I want to fix some things)
And yes, you can totally do that. I should make that more explicit in the manual.
Ok, to run it: you should be able to just navigate to the folder it's in and run it using
toolbox.bat myrules.ruleor similar. Just make sure, when you load a lexicon, the path is either absolute (starting from the drive it's on) or relatively to where you are running the toolbox from.
Square brackets aren't reserved, per se but are parsed in a special way. They are intended for use with longer variable names, like in my Kuma-Koban examples, or phonetic features which will be supported in the next version (technically they are in THIS version, but I made it so you can't load them because I want to fix some things)
And yes, you can totally do that. I should make that more explicit in the manual.
Tried running
C:\Users\<my name>\Desktop\haedus-sca-0.5.0\toolbox.bat pq_rules.rule
and got an error message "Unable to access jarfile toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar".
Sorry if I sound naggy- I'm just totally unfamiliar with the ins and outs of command prompt.
(EDIT:
[10:23] <dhok> I tried running
[10:23] <dhok> C:\Users\Campbell\Desktop\haedus-sca-0.5.0\toolbox.bat pq_rules.rule
[10:23] <dhok> and got an error message
[10:23] <dhok> Unable to access jarfile toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar
[10:24] <dhok> same error message when I give it the full address of the rules file
[10:26] <H13> that is weird
[10:26] <H13> have you tried to run it from the command prompt rather than the .bat file
[10:27] <H13> also uh
[10:27] <H13> you may have to execute the batch file as admin
[10:27] <dhok> that is where I'm running it
[10:28] <H13> otherwise, use ur admin powers and give yourself normal-user execute permission
[10:28] <dhok> when I click on the batch file or run it as administrator it gives me an error message in command prompt so quickly I can't even read it before it closes
C:\Users\<my name>\Desktop\haedus-sca-0.5.0\toolbox.bat pq_rules.rule
and got an error message "Unable to access jarfile toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar".
Sorry if I sound naggy- I'm just totally unfamiliar with the ins and outs of command prompt.
(EDIT:
[10:23] <dhok> I tried running
[10:23] <dhok> C:\Users\Campbell\Desktop\haedus-sca-0.5.0\toolbox.bat pq_rules.rule
[10:23] <dhok> and got an error message
[10:23] <dhok> Unable to access jarfile toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar
[10:24] <dhok> same error message when I give it the full address of the rules file
[10:26] <H13> that is weird
[10:26] <H13> have you tried to run it from the command prompt rather than the .bat file
[10:27] <H13> also uh
[10:27] <H13> you may have to execute the batch file as admin
[10:27] <dhok> that is where I'm running it
[10:28] <H13> otherwise, use ur admin powers and give yourself normal-user execute permission
[10:28] <dhok> when I click on the batch file or run it as administrator it gives me an error message in command prompt so quickly I can't even read it before it closes
That's really weird. toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar is in that folder right? Everything should be right there. it's very strange that it couldn't find it. You could try also running it manually with
java -jar toolbox-sca-0.5.0.jar pq_rules.rulewhich is basically what the batch file does. Sorry you are having these problems, I've tested this quite extensively, so I really hope I didn't miss something.
RELEASE: Toolbox SCA 0.6.0
- Allows insertion / epenthesis of segments (0 > e / #_sC)
- Logging to file + console
- Improved logging, including line number and file name for the script in which the error was found.
- Now attempts to log all compilation errors encountered in all loaded scripts before quitting
- Added some clarifications to the manual where users indicated some sections were unclear.
https://github.com/samanthamccabe/toolbox-sca/releases/tag/0.6.0