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? seraphinak posts: 11
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I am currently working on a conlang for a race called Ruhd'rel/Uhd'rel/Ruhd'reliax. These are the humanoid form, dragon/child form, and plural/culture form respectively.

Their language is my first attempt at conlanging and I have several more languages to create for my world. Tips, advice, and criticism is welcome

The language so far:

Kroluhd (accent over the o) -  Place of fire

Nrokdeuhd (accent over o and e) - take by fire

Nrok (accent over o) - take

De (accent over e) - by

Drav - change

Lerok (accent over o) - course

Dravlerok - (accent over o) - aberrant

Inyok - (accent over o) - abet

Lev - put

Yere - aside

Levyere - abeyance

Trav - bring

Travniko - (accent over o) - abhor

Sre - (accent over e) - do

Srekor - do with honor

Versk - wait

Vrol - (accent over o) - burn

Nrokvroluhd - literally take burning fire

Ki - in

Frayes - beginning

Vre - (accent over e) - repugnant

Trav'reniko - (accent over e and o) - to bring repugnance without honor

Au - death

Ro - (accent over o) - will

Kor - honor

Va - am

Nu - before

Vis - presence

Kortoh - (accent over second o) - heart's honor

Nikotoh - accent over both Os) - without any heart's honor

Drel - kinland

Rel - kin

Lyr - sing

Ni - makes any word negative

Uhd - fire

Ruh - blood

Ok - (accent over o) - from

Torok - (accent over second o) - magic

Meyr - servant

Meyrvo - (accent over o) - slave

Vo - own

Duk - drink

Muk - food

Borek - travel/go

En - with

Tor - heart

Ian - culture

Sko - (accent over o) - scales

Div - number

Skodiv - (accent over o) - number scales (form of counting)

Niko' - (accent over o) - without honor

Nibor'ko' - (accent over second o) - travel without honor

Krol - (accent over o) - place

Korto'drely'ch - honor of my heartland

Ruhdrel - Kin of blood fire (singular)

Ruhdreliax - kin of blood fire (plural)

Ruhdrelian - culture kin of blood fire

Nikoto'ichuch - (accent over both Os) - you are not my friend

Nikoto'uchich - I am not your friend

Korto'uchich - I am your friend

Borekich - I travel

Borekuch - you travel

Mukich - I eat food

Borekach - it travels

Mukuch - you eat food

Mukach - it eats food

Myerich - I serve

Myeruch - you serve

Myerach - it serves

More to come:)
? Hālian :(
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Might I suggest you adopt a keyboard layout that lets you type out diacritics, such as Alt-Latin (diagram)?
? seraphinak posts: 11
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a little background
The Ruhdreliax are a race of dragon people. They have a nesting island called Korto'drely'ch which is situated between  the Mythril Sea to the west and the Celendrial Sea to the east.


The closest continent is that of Lydissa. The southern most country of Lydissa is Centaurnia and is the closest country to the east. Northwest of Korto'drely'ch is the continent Lato'um with its southern most country Erotalus being the closest to the northwest. Directly north of Korto'drely'ch are the small islands of Cymmaron Isles with the closest island being Roa'in.

They are born in dragon form called Uhdrel and when they are about 30 years old, (teenagers for Ruhdreliax), they begin shifting between the humanoid form known as Ruhdrel and Uhdrel. By 33, this stabilizes and they can control when they shift from one form to the other.

Uhdrel remain with their mother on Korto'drely'ch until they reach adulthood at 33. At that point, they are permitted to live among the other races.

The Ruhdrelian is a culture based on honor. My primary source culture is Japanese and German is my source language to some extent. It is a simple language with very few words because the Ruhdreliax don't believe in wasting speech.  They speak only as needed.

In the Ruhdrel form, they can't breathe fire, but in the Uhdrel form they can.  This is why they don't live among the other races until they come of age.

Many Ruhdreliax work in transportation services, carrying closed boxes with windows for people or closed windowless boxes of cargo from country to country or continent to continent. They do not provide transportation for short trips, as they believe them to be a waste of energy, since other forms of transportation exist that are more efficient. They have specially built harnesses which they wear across their shoulders in the Uhdrel form which allows the box to follow behind at a safe distance.

Some Ruhdreliax are farmers who raise various types of livestock. Only the Uhdrel in transportation services and on Korto'drely'ch eat in the Uhdrel form. The remainder of the Ruhdrel eat the equivalent portions of the other races. The Ruhdreliax farmers will sell food they raise to other races, but their first fruits always go to the Uhdrel.

Some Ruhdreliax are techno wizards, because of their natural fire element, they understand energy more than most races. They live very long lives, the oldest Ruhdrel lived to be 7,589 years old. With their many years, they become very clever and use their time to make the world a better place.

Technology that they share is perfected prior to selling it or introducing it to the other races. Their technology is often mistaken for magic.

Not all Ruhdreliax are good but for the most part, they are a peaceful race.

? seraphinak posts: 11
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quoting Hàlian, Atetía, Florida:
Might I suggest you adopt a keyboard layout that lets you type out diacritics, such as Alt-Latin (diagram)?

I don't have internet except by phone  and I am not sure how to change my keyboard. It's a windows phone. It would make it easier to add language marks:)
? seraphinak posts: 11
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update
I have rearranged my country names by language families so the location names have been updated.

Mythril Sea = Mythryl Sea

Celendrial Sea = Selendriol Sea

Centaurnia = Sentծrnia

Erotalus = Arotolys

Lato'um = Tallo'um

Cymmaron isles = Symoron Synz

Roa'in = Rծa'in
? Cev Grammatis Qaghan
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What is <ծ>?
? seraphinak posts: 11
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quoting Cev, Gene:
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It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks?



? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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quoting seraphinak, Disinterest:
It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?

Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has way better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are still better at, e.g. writing more complex things than a WhatsApp message.

You may also be interested in Annie's dictionary-keeping capabilities. Also, this and this very basic introduction to how some important parts of languages work and how to leverage knowledge about how real-world languages work to make fictional ones.
? seraphinak posts: 11
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quoting Jipí, Alkali Metal, Marburg, Germany:
quoting seraphinak, Disinterest:
It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?

Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has way better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are still better at, e.g. writing more complex things than a WhatsApp message.

You may also be interested in Annie's dictionary-keeping capabilities. Also, this and this very basic introduction to how some important parts of languages work and how to leverage knowledge about how real-world languages work to make fictional ones.

I will definitely take a look at these resources, I have the language construction kit, but when it came to the international phonetics I got a bit lost. I don't have the symbols memorized which made it a bit of a difficult read. I'm working on it though

Sadly, phone is really the best I have for the moment as internet services are unaffordable on their own and I have tried connecting my phone and using it as a hotspot but its hit or miss. I have downloaded several keyboards but as you say, PC is better.
? seraphinak posts: 11
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Just curious, but I started a lexicon for Ruhdrelian using a dictionary, is this something others do as well?

I wasn't using every word, only what seemed appropriate.
? Jipí der saz ûf eime steine
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quoting seraphinak, Disinterest:
I will definitely take a look at these resources, I have the language construction kit, but when it came to the international phonetics I got a bit lost. I don't have the symbols memorized which made it a bit of a difficult read. I'm working on it though

Oh, you don't need to memorize the whole of the IPA now. There's more to language than individual words and how they sound – morphology and syntax are just as important because they govern how to assemble words and sentences from their building blocks. You'll pick things up as you go.
? seraphinak posts: 11
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I've finally found a character map which will make typing out my words way easier:)

I've spent the last week working on putting my countries into language families based on common spellings and sounds, then doing the same with my constellations. Using this method has  given me a few additional language models to work with. I've noticed that some of the characteristics were common to other families thus providing a way to incorporate borrowed words as well.

Many of the place names changed form from what I originally had in order to fit a specific category.
? seraphinak posts: 11
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My favorite constellation name which came from a change of form in order to fit a category is Krózyfái. In this specific language family, o is generally pronounced ah and ai is pronounced eye. The a is generally followed by r, n, or i much like qu always goes together in English. The ar combination produces air and an produces in like captain, so without the accent there's no true a sound. A in this language family does not exist on its own.
? seraphinak posts: 11
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Granted, I should probably mention that the above information does not apply to Ruhdrelian:)
? seraphinak posts: 11
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In Ruhdrelian, since they don't speak more than needed, sentences are generally composed of one word which conveys everything that they want to say. Sometimes this includes multiple meanings.

To say goodbye - they would mean "goodbye my good friend and may you have good fortune until we meet again". They would actually say "Torichbor'enuch" which translates to  "my heart goes with you." This is for someone who is familiar like a friend or family member. To say goodbye to someone that is older or unfamiliar to them, they would say "Kornuich" which translates to "my honor goes before you."

Their writings can be difficult to translate for someone outside of the culture because much of its meaning is implied rather than explicitly stated.

An example of this will be forthcoming as I will translate one of my constellation legends into Ruhdrelian, hopefully by the end of the week.
? kodé man of few words
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quoting Cev, Gene:
What is <ծ>?

Armenian for /ts)/ or /dz)/ (depending on dialect).
? Hallow XIII Primordial Crab
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Quick note: I haven't said anything about your language yet because I was waiting for you to produce the legend you wanted to translate. However, as Torco is in the process of doing the ZBB thing to you over there, I'd encourage you to a) not forget about this place and b) not to be too quick to respond to him (or other users of that board). Their pedagogical method has its weaknesses, and I'd like to try and give you a bit of a better introduction to all of this.

Looking forward to that legend!