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Quote Thread (2019-01-05 07:46:05) :
<dhok> Decree Nisi
<dhok> an order by a court of law stating the date on which a marriage will end unless a good reason not to grant a divorce is produced.
<pthag> nisi
<pthag> u see
<dhok> means "unless" yes
<pthag> pronounced /naisai/ fyi
<dhok> a legal term around since before the great vowel shift i see
<pthag> i think that's unwarrented
<pthag> this is standard english pronunciation of latin
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The Aztec discovery of Europe (2018-10-16 00:20:21) :
This is gorgeous. What are you using to make the maps?
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Quote Thread (2018-10-16 00:14:42) :
<YaaliAnnar> Hmm... how old were the children when they start being pederasted?
<YaaliAnnar> Old enough to ejaculate?
<YaaliAnnar> I'm still looking for the proper verb for the act of pederasting a boy.
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The Aztec discovery of Europe (2018-10-12 08:34:27) :
I can't speak to the Mesoamerican side of things, but your timing is off if you want the Algonquian Confederacy to be much of a state. The corn/beans/squash package is very recent in New England--probably no earlier than about 1300 AD. You'll have more luck with the Mississippians, but they're much further inland, of course.

Of course, you have full license to handwave as much away as you'd like...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan (2018-06-24 09:26:45) :
-5500 BW:


Intensive agriculture has developed in the upper tributaries of the Myà river (Proto-Sylatic [i]*myah[/i] 'wide'), though it has not yet translated to urban centers or civilization; it won't for some time yet.

Implements and tools consistent with earlier finds around the small peninsula on the northern coast (if the Myà is the Nile, Shit Carthage?) are now being found in the coast around the lower Myà valley. This i...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan (2018-06-24 08:58:39) :
New map. Climates should baaasically remain the same. Shit Tibet has been ensmallened. The "highland" areas are generally speaking areas truly inaccessible to organized, dense agricultural civilization--there may be control over these areas, but rarely real domination.

We arbitrarily set the date for the development of agriculture at -6000 BW (before writing). Here's a map of the area around -7000 BW, just before that point. The scratchy color indicates that they have not yet developed ...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan (2018-06-24 08:07:33) :
Here is an Map, showing two major unnamed continents and a pseudo-India that is about ten million years away from crashing into the bigger continent in the east; it has already raised a shit Tibet which may be too big.


The map represents a sizeable portion of the world from 20 to 50 degrees South. The short black lines on the eastern edge represent 30 and 40 degrees, respectively. Assuming an equirectangular projection (which we will)...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan (2018-06-24 04:50:04) :
how do I change the post title

Too hot and sticky to do any real work, and Chinese air conditioning is extremely milquetoast, so time for an a priori Thing. First, the inventory of Pre-Proto-Thing.

[tt]*p *t *tʃ *k *ʔ
*b *d *dʒ *g
*ᵐp *ⁿt *ⁿtʃ *ᵑk
*ᵐb *ⁿd *ⁿdʒ *ᵑg
*m *n *ŋ
*θ *s *x *h
*ð *z *ɣ *ɦ
*w *r *y
*w̃ *ỹ

*i *ɯ *u
*e *ɤ *o

Pre-Proto-Thing (let's say the root for 'speak' was [...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: shit sino-siouan? :
[b]The Noun[/b]

The usual story: three genders, seven cases (nom/gen/acc/dat/ins/loc/voc), and several declensions. The dual is retained in that most things that come in pairs have a nominative/accusative/vocative plural deriving from the dual, and this ending also appears on any noun when it is modified by [b]ⲍⲟⲩ[/b] 'two'.


Our masculine paradigm is [b]ⲡⲓⲉⲭⲟⲥ[/b] 'wolf'.

[code] sg.    pl.
nom. ⲡⲓⲉⲭ-ⲟⲥ ⲡⲓⲉⲭ-ⲉ
gen. ⲡⲓⲉⲭ-ⲉⲥ(ⲟ)...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan (2017-10-23 04:18:08) :
Decided "cow" is not irregular; strong stem [i]*gʷow[/i] generalized, and Brugmann's + Szerémenyi's yielded a uniform stem [i]ⲕⲟⲩ-[/i].

"Water" ([b]ⲡⲟⲩⲧⲉⲣ[/b]) shows an irregular singular paradigm. The nom./acc./voc. shows the reflex of [i]*wódṛ[/i]; elsewhere the oblique stem [i]*uden-[/i] appears.

nom. ⲡⲟⲩⲧⲉⲣ
gen. ⲟⲧⲉⲥ
dat. ⲟⲧⲓⲛⲉ
ins. ⲟⲧⲓⲛⲙⲓ
loc. ⲟⲧⲓⲛⲓ

'Earth' shows a highly irregular paradigm. Note that the instrumental continu...
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dhoklang scratchpad...3.0? NP: Bosporan :
[no_emote](shamelessly kidnapped from the Zeeb, because the Zeeb is shit at doing tables. Also, mèþru et sim.)

Bosporan (spoken in Crimea and the Krasnodar area, not the area around Constantinople) is attested over a time period spanning about 1200 years in numerous texts and inscriptions; it is about as well-attested as Tocharian. Two main stages are attested: [i]Old Bosporan[/i], written with the Greek alphabet, from about 400 BC to around 150 AD. A relative lull of about two centurie...
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Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2017-07-14 09:20:13) :
[b]ⲧⲟⲭⲟ ⲙⲓⲙⲟⲣⲓ ⲧⲟⲭⲓ ⲛⲉⲥⲓ ⲙⲓⲙⲟⲅⲓ ⲙⲟⲣⲥⲟⲛ.[/b]
[i]What is dead can never die.[/i]
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Quote Thread (2017-01-05 21:27:09) :
<nort> if Hitler were alive today there's no way he wouldn't be a furry
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Quote Thread (2016-11-20 14:54:15) :
<@H13> it's okay
<@H13> now that donald trump has made anime real, girls actually enjoy rape
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dhoklang scratchpad 2.0 (NP: Turkish but ergative) :
In recent months, all of my conlanging efforts have been either a) Algonquian thinly disguised or b) a posteriori. I'm starting to get bored with those, so I'm going to start an a priori family that's a bit easier to handle.

*p *t *tʲ *k *kʲ
*b *d *dʲ *g *gʲ
*m *n *nʲ
*ts *tsʲ
*dz *dzʲ
*ɸ *s *sʲ *x *xʲ
*w *l *lʲ *j
*ɾ *ɾʲ

Vowels and diphthongs:

*i~ɨ *u
*e~ə *o
*æ~ä *ɒ
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Talk in a natlang, y'all (2016-09-25 13:46:51) :
[b]ἀλεθινὼς ἱστορικὸν βιβλίον περὶ τῆς γλώσσας τῆς ἑλληνικῆς, ᾧ ἥδε γλῶσσα ἔχει μανθάνεσθαι, ζήτεόν εστι. [url=]οἷον βιβλίον[/url] περὶ τῆς σανσκρίτης ἐστί, καὶ φασιν ὅτι ἀγαθὸν ᾖ, ἀλλὰ δὴ εὔωνον οὔκ ἐστι.[/b].
A book about Greek from a really historical perspective that you could learn the language with would be much-desired. Such a book exists for Sanskrit, and I've heard it's good, but it's not cheap.

[b]ἐγώγ' ἐλπίζω τὸν Τϝάβα σὺν ἡμῖν τῇ ἑλληνικῇ τῇ πα...
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Nahtak family Scratchpad (NP: PN phonology) :
This is the umpteenth iteration, give or take, of the project affectionately referred to as 'Shit Algonquian'. We'll start, as usual, with phonology.

*p *t *ts *tʃ *k *kʷ *ʔ
*m *n *ŋ
*θ *s *ʃ *h
*l *j *w

[b]*ts *tʃ *ʃ *j[/b] are written [i]c č š y[/i], respectively, in accordance with usual Americanist practice.

*i *i: *ɨ *ɨ:
*e *e: *o *o:
*a *a:
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Celebratory Diplo Game! (2016-07-26 13:38:14) :
Since I won't be going to Latin Camp by Opus Dei this autumn, I'll reaffirm my commitment to play. H13, you can stay judge.

We could always try a new map if we wanted- there are plenty of well-balanced Diplo variants out there.
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Celebratory Diplo Game! (2016-07-23 09:08:35) :
Yeah, I'm down. I suppose I could be judge this go-round, since H13 did it last time.
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i'm glad is back (2016-07-17 09:27:34) :
Came here to say this.
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