Methinat Scratchpad (2015-09-26 19:53:54)
:So, it seems likely that the oldest amphidynamic pattern was é/ó-ø-s ~ ø-é-m̥ ~ ø-ø-és (nom ~ acc ~ gen (all amphidynamic nouns are in fact masculine). The newer hysterokinetic and amphikinetic patterns are offshots from this, with various further developments. Therefore, I'm going to take Methinat from a region that never underwent those developments, to make things easier (although, in the long run, I don't think it much matters). Now, this pattern does itself have an interesting two-fold deve...
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Methinat Scratchpad (2015-09-22 21:08:00)
:I actually got a lot of my ideas from reading about Tocharian. The role of ə specifically, as will be expanded upon soon, was shamelessly stolen straight from there.
Yes, that's the outcome of the palatalisation, with ś coming via ź, with the same development of the aspiratae to fricatives as Italic.
In regards to accent, I'm a little torn as to exactly what to do. Having read many of Kloekhorst's articles on the accent-ablaut system, I've been forced to abandon some notions, w...
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Methinat Scratchpad (2015-09-21 10:32:42)
:Ok, now for the nominal morphology. I'll leave accent-ablaut for later, since it's such a difficult question (and there are lots of difference answers to consider). For this post, we'll do endings.
The surviving cases at this point are nominative, accusative, genitive, dative, locative, and instrumental. I don't believe that PIE had an ablative case, and the allative was apparently already on its way out. The PIE terminations were as follows:
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Methinat Scratchpad (2015-09-21 07:48:34)
:Heh, the merger of a and o comes up pretty soon after this. And the loss of labialisation was pretty recent. On the laryngeals, they merge into ʔ (probably via h before s debuccalised). They still colour vowels as normal (so h₁e, h₂e, h₃e > ʔe, ʔa, ʔo). They are lost immediately after this phase (in the normal way, with compensatory lengthening after vowels, simple loss otherwise).
Thanks! I've done several PIElangs now and then, but I've never quite been happy with how they've turne...
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Methinat Scratchpad (2015-09-20 13:40:14)
:So, I'm going to start with the phonology of the earliest attested phase of the language, termed Ancient Methinat, spoken around 2100 BC. The most major phonological developments from PIE include palatalisation of the front dorsals, resolution of the syllabic consonants (including laryngeals), fricativisation of the aspirates, merger of the laryngeals, and loss of labialisation. All this change produces the following inventory:
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:I've been working on this conlang (Methinat) for several months now, but never [i]quite[/i] been satisfied with it. As general background, it's a PIElang spoken in a concountry of mine in a collaborative conworld. Enough said, really. Now, I'm determined to get everything worked out, so I'm just going to post my rambling musings here, since I haven't much used Anthologica otherwise, and it's about time I gave it some love. To be continued in the next post...
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Tloko / Omya redux (2015-06-09 11:18:20)
:Incidentally, I believe that there are 4096 glyphs in total. I arrived at that figure by identifying that all glyphs can be reduced to a grid of 9 dots, with lines connecting the dots. A line between two dots indicates that the corresponding boxes are connected. So, to count the number of glyphs, one merely determines how many possible combinations of lines there are, which comes to 2^12 = 4096.
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218 Example sentences for translation (warning: huge) (2015-05-28 12:48:58)
:[quote KathAveara, Baroness, United Kingdom]Specifically [i]*dʱg'ʱes-[/i]. Although, I have since made a slight revision to the sound changes, so that word should now be [b]hsés[/b][/quote]
Um, just realised that [b]hsés[/b] ought to mean "yesterday". "Tomorrow" ought to be [b]taþés[/b].
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218 Example sentences for translation (warning: huge) (2015-05-18 12:51:48)
:1. The sun shines.
2. The sun is shining.
3. The sun shone.
4. The sun will shine.
[b]êt hâul fatî[/b]
5. The sun has been shining.
[b]êþ hâul fatî[/b]
6. The sun is shining again.
[b]féfāt hâul ítr[/b]
7. The sun will shine tomorrow.
[b]êt hâul fatî hsés[/b]
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Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2015-03-23 08:35:39)
:[quote Travis B., Transition Metal, Milwaukee, Wisconsin][ˈɛ̀ ˈtɕʰĩ̯ɛ̃́ ˈfɘ̀ːɡ̊ɐʁˤ ˈɒ́ ˈɒ̀w ə ˈtʃʰẽ̀ːtʃ d̥ə ˈɡ̊ʁʷĩ̯ɛ̃̀ːmɐʁˤ ɐ ˈd̥ɘ̀s ˈɘ̃̀ːɡ̊ɰəʃ ˈvʁˤæ̌ːjɘɾi][/quote]
I(?) ??? forgot all(?) how(?) ??? change(?) the(?) grammar of this English variety(?)
Um, yeah. About that understandability...
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Old Thuthic Scratchpad (2015-03-07 19:34:45)
:[quote dhok, Priest, Norman, United States]The genitive of [i]yos[/i] is [i]yanäs[/i], if that helps.[/quote]
Goose? I thought it might be, but without knowing more precise diachronics, it's hard.
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Old Thuthic Scratchpad (2015-03-07 05:54:16)
:[quote dhok, Priest, Norman, United States]And some animals: äšwas, awäs, yos, mus, aršas, wärfo, wärhas, kos, sus, šo (genitive šonäs). A cookie to anyone who can decipher all of these before I wake up tomorrow.[/quote]
Horse, sheep, [unsure], mouse, bear, fox, wolf, cow, pig, dog.
I really don't know what yos could be.
Looks like it'll be a pretty nice language.
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Anthologica Diplomacy -- Winter Edition (2015-01-19 07:51:54)
:I keep counting 2 - 10 - 11 - 11 centers for the 4 players left (Austria - France - England - Turkey; I never worked out who was who)
Edit: Oh, I see where I'm going wrong. The colours haven't been updated yet.
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