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Quote Thread (2017-01-02 08:14:39) :
slereah: You know what had great furry sex in it, though? "Blood and Chocolate"
slereah: Gr8 teenage girl romance book about werewolf, loved it as a kid.
Cev: This is why we need sharia law in France.
Cev: The top 6 placers every year have to get kidney transplants or something, and several winners have died.
Cev: Google search suggests a winner hasn't died since 2003.
travisb: That's because they stopped the championships then.
Legion: Apparently neuter nouns a...
slereah: You know what had great furry sex in it, though? "Blood and Chocolate"
slereah: Gr8 teenage girl romance book about werewolf, loved it as a kid.
Cev: This is why we need sharia law in France.
Cev: The top 6 placers every year have to get kidney transplants or something, and several winners have died.
Cev: Google search suggests a winner hasn't died since 2003.
travisb: That's because they stopped the championships then.
Legion: Apparently neuter nouns a...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2017-01-02 08:14:39.
Quote Thread (2016-09-28 01:35:48) :
Whimemsz: How many official Greek letters are there referencing pickled geese?
Slereah: At least two, apparently.
Slereah: "Official letter in Greek mentioning a pickled goose (P.Duk.inv. 599)"
Slereah: It is followed by "Official letter in Greek mentioning a pickled goose (P.Duk.inv. 605 R) "
Slereah: Pickled geese were serious stuff.
YaaliAnnar: "En gran parte de España, se les llama "judías" (de origen muy incierto, pero quizá del hebreo יְהוּדִי yĕhūdī)"
Seraphin...
Whimemsz: How many official Greek letters are there referencing pickled geese?
Slereah: At least two, apparently.
Slereah: "Official letter in Greek mentioning a pickled goose (P.Duk.inv. 599)"
Slereah: It is followed by "Official letter in Greek mentioning a pickled goose (P.Duk.inv. 605 R) "
Slereah: Pickled geese were serious stuff.
YaaliAnnar: "En gran parte de España, se les llama "judías" (de origen muy incierto, pero quizá del hebreo יְהוּדִי yĕhūdī)"
Seraphin...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-09-28 01:35:48.
If we're voting. I vote for kichwa.
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-06-30 02:40:08.
>> What about Mapuche?
What about Aymara?
Anyway, I'm fine either way, as long as our target language is highly regular.
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-06-22 02:49:00.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages (2016-02-18 23:26:29) :
I read those articles several times, but I still can't understand them :(
I read those articles several times, but I still can't understand them :(
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-02-18 23:26:29.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages (2016-02-01 22:06:38) :
Ever wondered what phonemes are over represented in language with front rounded vowel?
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
f 68.18 53.18 15.00
v 45.45 32.79 12.66
z 46.36 35.10 11.26
x 3...
Ever wondered what phonemes are over represented in language with front rounded vowel?
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
f 68.18 53.18 15.00
v 45.45 32.79 12.66
z 46.36 35.10 11.26
x 3...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-02-01 22:06:38.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages (2016-01-31 18:57:37) :
And here's the result for implosive language. So, language with implosives tend to be tonal, have voiced fricative, labiovelar stops, and prenasalized stops.
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
ɓ 91.42 15.27 76.14
ɗ 77.61 12.97 64.64
˨ 56.34 &nbs...
And here's the result for implosive language. So, language with implosives tend to be tonal, have voiced fricative, labiovelar stops, and prenasalized stops.
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
ɓ 91.42 15.27 76.14
ɗ 77.61 12.97 64.64
˨ 56.34 &nbs...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-02-01 21:46:47.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages (2016-02-01 21:44:45) :
I think I fixed the join issue, and now I can list the most underrepresented phoneme in click language more accurately.
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
ɾ 11.11 33.92 -22.80
oː 5.56 27.00 -21.44
eː 5.56 26.87 -2...
I think I fixed the join issue, and now I can list the most underrepresented phoneme in click language more accurately.
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
ɾ 11.11 33.92 -22.80
oː 5.56 27.00 -21.44
eː 5.56 26.87 -2...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-02-01 21:44:45.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages (2016-01-31 18:52:41) :
So, this makes the query result for underrepresented phonemes became less accurate. But the result overrepresented phonemes are still somewhat accurate. Here are the overrepresented phonemes in language with ejectives:
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
kʼ 94.97 9.41 85.55
tʼ 72.96 7.23 &n...
So, this makes the query result for underrepresented phonemes became less accurate. But the result overrepresented phonemes are still somewhat accurate. Here are the overrepresented phonemes in language with ejectives:
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Phoneme Frequency Frequency Difference
In Subset In All
kʼ 94.97 9.41 85.55
tʼ 72.96 7.23 &n...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-01-31 18:52:41.
Phonemic Overrepresentation and Underrepresentation in Certain Type of Languages :
Before I start. Bear in mind that even though they have data for almost 2000 languages. Phoible's data is rather uneven. IIRC african languages are more documented in Phoible.
Anyway, I want to see which phonemes are more represented in certain type of language. For example, here is the top most common phoneme in a language with clicks, along with their frequency.
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Phoneme Frequency
m 18
i 18
u ...
Before I start. Bear in mind that even though they have data for almost 2000 languages. Phoible's data is rather uneven. IIRC african languages are more documented in Phoible.
Anyway, I want to see which phonemes are more represented in certain type of language. For example, here is the top most common phoneme in a language with clicks, along with their frequency.
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Phoneme Frequency
m 18
i 18
u ...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2016-01-31 04:53:39.
Quote Thread (2015-08-21 12:56:03) :
YaaliAnnar: I heard that Ainu people at one time decided to call themselves "Yukar" because the word Ainu has "inu" in it.
miekko: I heard the Jews once decided to call themselves "Hebrews" because the word "Jew" has "Jew" in it.
Theta: I used to think semen was blue when I was like 10 or something
Theta: I think I thought that because I got a scientific encyclopedia for kids for my birthday once.
Theta: And it used weird colors in the diagrams for reproductive organs.
...
YaaliAnnar: I heard that Ainu people at one time decided to call themselves "Yukar" because the word Ainu has "inu" in it.
miekko: I heard the Jews once decided to call themselves "Hebrews" because the word "Jew" has "Jew" in it.
Theta: I used to think semen was blue when I was like 10 or something
Theta: I think I thought that because I got a scientific encyclopedia for kids for my birthday once.
Theta: And it used weird colors in the diagrams for reproductive organs.
...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-08-21 12:56:03.
Quote Thread (2015-05-21 09:33:40) :
YaaliAnnar: I think "Abdullah" is the most islamic name ever.
cntrational: I associate "Abdullah" with arabs more than muslims.
YaaliAnnar: How many non moslem Abdullah's out there?
YaaliAnnar: Beside Mohammed's father... who is a... pagan.
YaaliAnnar: Oops, that name predates Islam.
YaaliAnnar: Your chinese name is 粒萨姆.
guitarplayer: And then surprise, the middle character means "penis".
YaaliAnnar: The middle character means bodhisatva.
guitarplayer: Oh....
YaaliAnnar: I think "Abdullah" is the most islamic name ever.
cntrational: I associate "Abdullah" with arabs more than muslims.
YaaliAnnar: How many non moslem Abdullah's out there?
YaaliAnnar: Beside Mohammed's father... who is a... pagan.
YaaliAnnar: Oops, that name predates Islam.
YaaliAnnar: Your chinese name is 粒萨姆.
guitarplayer: And then surprise, the middle character means "penis".
YaaliAnnar: The middle character means bodhisatva.
guitarplayer: Oh....
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-05-21 09:33:40.
Agglutinative Latin (2015-05-03 22:45:13) :
Pronouns:
-1sg: me
-2sg: tu
-1pl: no
-2pl: vo
-3sg/pl: e
-3ref: su
Pronominal Case:
-Nom: -0
Singular
-Gen: -i
-Dat: -bi
-Acc: -e
-Abl: -e
Plural
-Gen: -rum
-Dat: -bis
-Acc: -s
-Abl: -bis
Full table:
[table]
[tr][td]Person[td]Nom[td]Gen[td]Dat[td]Acc[td]Abl
[tr][td]1sg[td]me[td]mei[td]mebi[td]me[td]me
[tr][td]2sg[td]tu[td]tui[td]tubi[td]tue[td]tue
[tr][td]3sgref[td]-[td]s...
Pronouns:
-1sg: me
-2sg: tu
-1pl: no
-2pl: vo
-3sg/pl: e
-3ref: su
Pronominal Case:
-Nom: -0
Singular
-Gen: -i
-Dat: -bi
-Acc: -e
-Abl: -e
Plural
-Gen: -rum
-Dat: -bis
-Acc: -s
-Abl: -bis
Full table:
[table]
[tr][td]Person[td]Nom[td]Gen[td]Dat[td]Acc[td]Abl
[tr][td]1sg[td]me[td]mei[td]mebi[td]me[td]me
[tr][td]2sg[td]tu[td]tui[td]tubi[td]tue[td]tue
[tr][td]3sgref[td]-[td]s...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-05-04 02:11:57.
The Bad Maps Thread (2015-05-04 01:57:15) :
>>"Indonesian Civilization" in Indochina.
Who made this map?
>>"Indonesian Civilization" in Indochina.
Who made this map?
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-05-04 01:57:15.
Agglutinative Latin (2015-05-03 22:29:06) :
Well, the -r- seems to be more indicative of perfectivity compared to -v-. Also less confusion between -r- and -b-:
1st conj
amav-i-t
amav-er-a-t
amav-er-i-t
2nd conj
monu-i-t
monu-er-a-t
monu-er-i-t
Even the 3rd conjugation doesn't even have -v-
leg-i-t
leg-er-a-t
leg-er-i-t
4th conj
audiv-i-t
audiv-er-a-t
audiv-er-i-t
Well, the -r- seems to be more indicative of perfectivity compared to -v-. Also less confusion between -r- and -b-:
1st conj
amav-i-t
amav-er-a-t
amav-er-i-t
2nd conj
monu-i-t
monu-er-a-t
monu-er-i-t
Even the 3rd conjugation doesn't even have -v-
leg-i-t
leg-er-a-t
leg-er-i-t
4th conj
audiv-i-t
audiv-er-a-t
audiv-er-i-t
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-05-03 22:29:06.
Agglutinative Latin :
For a dead ancient language, Latin had a pretty neat conjugation.
I thought a bit and I wonder if I can make it even neater. So... here it is, an agglutinative Latin:
[Indicative]
Aspect:
- Non Perfect: -b-
- Perfect: -r-
Tense:
-Present: -u-
-Past: -a-
-Future: -i-
//I failed to find a general pattern for number here. So number and person is still fused.
Person
-1sg: -m-
-2sg: -s-
-3sg: -t-
-1pl: -mus-
-2pl...
For a dead ancient language, Latin had a pretty neat conjugation.
I thought a bit and I wonder if I can make it even neater. So... here it is, an agglutinative Latin:
[Indicative]
Aspect:
- Non Perfect: -b-
- Perfect: -r-
Tense:
-Present: -u-
-Past: -a-
-Future: -i-
//I failed to find a general pattern for number here. So number and person is still fused.
Person
-1sg: -m-
-2sg: -s-
-3sg: -t-
-1pl: -mus-
-2pl...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-05-03 12:29:49.
Pretty Scripties Showcase Thread (2015-04-11 08:16:11) :
Entirely Meaningless.
[image:http://40.media.tumblr.com/190129839e6aadc621936233b5d1fde4/tumblr_nmmyuhPqUd1rvjha7o1_1280.png]
[image:http://41.media.tumblr.com/147a7cfe043e1a66bf82e74f7aa70a3f/tumblr_nmmyuhPqUd1rvjha7o2_1280.png]
Entirely Meaningless.
[image:http://40.media.tumblr.com/190129839e6aadc621936233b5d1fde4/tumblr_nmmyuhPqUd1rvjha7o1_1280.png]
[image:http://41.media.tumblr.com/147a7cfe043e1a66bf82e74f7aa70a3f/tumblr_nmmyuhPqUd1rvjha7o2_1280.png]
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-04-11 08:16:11.
[]: An unspoken language. (2015-04-08 00:35:31) :
Voicing:
The voice marker represents the "direction" of the verb. It can be placed before or after the verb.
[image:http://i.imgur.com/94Gzwwp.png] man touches building
[image:https://i.imgur.com/EG34C2R.png] building is touched by man
Here's how to write "man makes building" or rather "man causes the existence of building"
[image:http://i.imgur.com/RfIh2o4.png]
The glyph for creation can also be used to form causative:
[image:https:...
Voicing:
The voice marker represents the "direction" of the verb. It can be placed before or after the verb.
[image:http://i.imgur.com/94Gzwwp.png] man touches building
[image:https://i.imgur.com/EG34C2R.png] building is touched by man
Here's how to write "man makes building" or rather "man causes the existence of building"
[image:http://i.imgur.com/RfIh2o4.png]
The glyph for creation can also be used to form causative:
[image:https:...
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-04-08 00:35:31.
Lies, Damned Lies and Phonological Statistics. (2015-02-07 03:37:22) :
Now, here's the UPSID data turned into grafx
[image:http://i.imgur.com/JxTA6C0.png]
There's some observation that can be seen here:
Phoible merges true-mid with upper-mid vowel *except* the central ones where it merged down instead. The lax high central vowel seems to be merged up with the tense high central vowels (It doesn't make any much difference).
The raised low vowels seems to be merged down with the true low vowel.
Now, here's the UPSID data turned into grafx
[image:http://i.imgur.com/JxTA6C0.png]
There's some observation that can be seen here:
Phoible merges true-mid with upper-mid vowel *except* the central ones where it merged down instead. The lax high central vowel seems to be merged up with the tense high central vowels (It doesn't make any much difference).
The raised low vowels seems to be merged down with the true low vowel.
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-02-07 03:38:12.
Lies, Damned Lies and Phonological Statistics. (2015-02-07 03:26:00) :
I made grafix
[image:http://i.imgur.com/BfZKgM5.png]
Some explanation:
Soomehow "lax high central" vowel is not recorded in phoible.
Phoible also classify schwa as "lax middle vowel" , hence the percentage of the upper mid and lower mid.
I made grafix
[image:http://i.imgur.com/BfZKgM5.png]
Some explanation:
Soomehow "lax high central" vowel is not recorded in phoible.
Phoible also classify schwa as "lax middle vowel" , hence the percentage of the upper mid and lower mid.
owned by Yaali Annar, last edited 2015-02-07 03:27:27.
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