Quō librō ūsī estis in cursū?quoting dhok:Myös, mä olen päättänyt mun kurssia Kreikkalaisen kielen eilen!
Also, I finished my Greek course yesterday!
What book did you use in your course?
Iocōsum dūcō 汉语大词典 Han4yu3 Da4 Ci2dian3, "Lexicon Sīnicae Linguae Magnum", trāditiōnālibus charactēribus ūtī cum antīquōrum sententiās ostendit, sed simplificātīs cum in Sīnicam hodiernam vertit verba. Hī enim trāditiōnālia charactēra faciunt antīqua (et, fingō, apta ad lingua Sīnicam classicam), sed simplificāta hodierna.
I find it funny that the 汉语大词典 Han4yu3 Da4 Ci2dian3, "The Large/Comprehensive Chinese Dictionary", uses Traditional Chinese for quotations, but Simplified Chinese when it translates words into Mandarin. They see Traditional characters as "old" (and presumably proper for Classical Chinese), but Simplified ones as "modern".
更好： 我不会用汉语说任何有（趣／意思）的东西。
Better: I can't say anything interesting in Chinese.
“可以”和“会”不完全一样。谈能力、知识的时候一般用“会”最好。
可以 and 会 aren't entirely the same; when talking about skill or knowledge, usually 会 is best.
中国人喜欢用连动词，比如“用汉语说Ｘ”，而且用“在”的话它一般在句子的前面：“我在中国待了一年”，“在汉语当中用连动词”。
The Chinese like to use serial verbs, e.g. "use Chinese say X", also when you use 在 it tends to be in the front of the sentence: "I in China stayed a year", "in Chinese are used serial verbs".
最后，“趣”有点儿书面语，说话的时候一般用“有意思”，但“有趣(儿）” 也可以。
Finally, 趣 is a bit literary. Colloquially you tend to say 意思, but 趣 (often with Erhua in speech) is also okay.
Better: I can't say anything interesting in Chinese.
“可以”和“会”不完全一样。谈能力、知识的时候一般用“会”最好。
可以 and 会 aren't entirely the same; when talking about skill or knowledge, usually 会 is best.
中国人喜欢用连动词，比如“用汉语说Ｘ”，而且用“在”的话它一般在句子的前面：“我在中国待了一年”，“在汉语当中用连动词”。
The Chinese like to use serial verbs, e.g. "use Chinese say X", also when you use 在 it tends to be in the front of the sentence: "I in China stayed a year", "in Chinese are used serial verbs".
最后，“趣”有点儿书面语，说话的时候一般用“有意思”，但“有趣(儿）” 也可以。
Finally, 趣 is a bit literary. Colloquially you tend to say 意思, but 趣 (often with Erhua in speech) is also okay.
I should start also writing pinyin. Maybe that would help me remember tone.
而家我開始學廣東話嘞。我發現，按照語法廣東話同國語差唔多。
ji2gaa1 ngo5 hoi1ci2 hok6 gwong2dung1waa2 la3. ngo5 faat6jin3, on3ziu3 jyu6faat3 gwong2dung1waa2 tung4 gwok3jyu6 caa1m4do1.
Now I've started learning Cantonese. It turns out that there is not much difference in grammar between Canto and Mando.
(who knew???)
ji2gaa1 ngo5 hoi1ci2 hok6 gwong2dung1waa2 la3. ngo5 faat6jin3, on3ziu3 jyu6faat3 gwong2dung1waa2 tung4 gwok3jyu6 caa1m4do1.
Now I've started learning Cantonese. It turns out that there is not much difference in grammar between Canto and Mando.
(who knew???)
quoting Hallow XIII:更好： 我不会用汉语说任何有（趣／意思）的东西。
Better: I can't say anything interesting in Chinese.
“可以”和“会”不完全一样。谈能力、知识的时候一般用“会”最好。
可以 and 会 aren't entirely the same; when talking about skill or knowledge, usually 会 is best.
中国人喜欢用连动词，比如“用汉语说Ｘ”，而且用“在”的话它一般在句子的前面：“我在中国待了一年”，“在汉语当中用连动词”。
The Chinese like to use serial verbs, e.g. "use Chinese say X", also when you use 在 it tends to be in the front of the sentence: "I in China stayed a year", "in Chinese are used serial verbs".
最后，“趣”有点儿书面语，说话的时候一般用“有意思”，但“有趣(儿）” 也可以。
Finally, 趣 is a bit literary. Colloquially you tend to say 意思, but 趣 (often with Erhua in speech) is also okay.
Oooooo... 非常感谢, dude, i'm still very much getting my head around the grammar.
That there's no inflection is refreshing, but i who speak both eng and spanish in highly syntactically unorthodox ways am starting to get the feeling strict word wonder is gonna be hard for me.
Now I've started learning Cantonese. It turns out that there is not much difference in grammar between Canto and Mando.
(who knew???)
Sans blague!
You don't say!
quoting Querubín:Quō librō ūsī estis in cursū?quoting dhok:Myös, mä olen päättänyt mun kurssia Kreikkalaisen kielen eilen!
Also, I finished my Greek course yesterday!
What book did you use in your course?
Mä käyttäin Alpha to Omega. On aika hyvä- sä opet lisää, kuin Athenazessa, mutta se on paljon helpompaa kuin "Greek: An Intensive Course."
I used Alpha to Omega. It's pretty good- you learn more than in Athenaze, but it's much easier than "Greek: An Intensive Course."
quoting Querubín:Cantō Mandōque sunt ut Hispānica atque Catalāna/Lūsitāna—iocōsissimē similārēs. Utinam ut Hispānica atque Gallica essent...
Canto and Mando are like Spanish and Catalan/Portuguese—ridiculously similar. I wish they were like Spanish and French instead...
Vae! Hispanica Lusitanaque non sunt tam similares. Possunt. Sed Brasiliana[ ?] est insana interdum.
Woe! Spanish and Portuguese aren't so similar. Okay maybe they are. But Brazilian is crazy at times.
quoting Jipí, Transition Metal, Marburg, Germany:Et voilà j'ai pensé pour un moment que ça serait le catalan :\
And there I thought for a moment that that'd be Catalan :\
Practicament lenga catalana, òc
Practically Catalan, yeah.
Compara:
Compare:
Questa discussione è morta / Aquesta discussió és morta / Aquesta discussion es mòrta
quoting Serafín, 番, Canada:Cantō Mandōque sunt ut Hispānica atque Catalāna/Lūsitāna—iocōsissimē similārēs. Utinam ut Hispānica atque Gallica essent...
Canto and Mando are like Spanish and Catalan/Portuguese—ridiculously similar. I wish they were like Spanish and French instead...
Duo anni intercesserunt; nunc autem ea, quae Latine scribere solebam, iam non possum aspicere. Quid dixi "similares" cum me oportebat dicere "similes"?
Two years have passed, and now I can't look at the Latin I used to write. Why did I say "similares" when I should've said "similes"?
quoting dhok, Alkali Metal:quoting Querubín:Quō librō ūsī estis in cursū?quoting dhok:Myös, mä olen päättänyt mun kurssia Kreikkalaisen kielen eilen!
Also, I finished my Greek course yesterday!
What book did you use in your course?
Mä käyttäin Alpha to Omega. On aika hyvä- sä opet lisää, kuin Athenazessa, mutta se on paljon helpompaa kuin "Greek: An Intensive Course."
I used Alpha to Omega. It's pretty good- you learn more than in Athenaze, but it's much easier than "Greek: An Intensive Course."
J'essaie d'étudier un peu de grec quand je trouve du temps libre, et ce livre-là, From Alpha to Omega, est vraiment fantastique. Je suis d'accord qu'il est meilleur que l'Athenaze (version anglaise) au moins, en particulier à cause des petits détails historiques qui expliquent les irrégularités.
I'm trying to study a little Greek when I find some free time, and this book, From Alpha to Omega, is truly fantastic. I agree that it's better than (the English version of) Athenaze at least, especially because of the historical tidbits that explain the irregularities.
ἀλεθινὼς ἱστορικὸν βιβλίον περὶ τῆς γλώσσας τῆς ἑλληνικῆς, ᾧ ἥδε γλῶσσα ἔχει μανθάνεσθαι, ζήτεόν εστι. οἷον βιβλίον περὶ τῆς σανσκρίτης ἐστί, καὶ φασιν ὅτι ἀγαθὸν ᾖ, ἀλλὰ δὴ εὔωνον οὔκ ἐστι..
A book about Greek from a really historical perspective that you could learn the language with would be much-desired. Such a book exists for Sanskrit, and I've heard it's good, but it's not cheap.
ἐγώγ' ἐλπίζω τὸν Τϝάβα σὺν ἡμῖν τῇ ἑλληνικῇ τῇ παλαίᾳ ἄρξοντα γράφειν.
I, at least, hope that Twabs will start writing with us in Ancient Greek.
A book about Greek from a really historical perspective that you could learn the language with would be much-desired. Such a book exists for Sanskrit, and I've heard it's good, but it's not cheap.
ἐγώγ' ἐλπίζω τὸν Τϝάβα σὺν ἡμῖν τῇ ἑλληνικῇ τῇ παλαίᾳ ἄρξοντα γράφειν.
I, at least, hope that Twabs will start writing with us in Ancient Greek.
𐠃𐠳𐠤𐠰𐠥𐠊𐠄𐠲𐠥𐠪𐠮𐠣𐠩𐠊𐠣𐠞𐠫𐠵𐠊𐠱𐠀𐠂𐠨𐠙𐠞𐠨𐠱𐠀𐠀𐠰𐠒𐠌𐠊
o we re to ri ka u wa ri si te ra se ka ra pa so wo ka tu a i sa na pa sa tu a a to lo ki ka
ὦ Ϝρητορικά, ὐϝαριστέρας γραφᾶς ὀϝ κατὺ αἶσαν ἄψατυ ἀ Ἀνθολογικά.
Rhetorica, Anthologica does not handle right-to-left writing correctly.
o we re to ri ka u wa ri si te ra se ka ra pa so wo ka tu a i sa na pa sa tu a a to lo ki ka
ὦ Ϝρητορικά, ὐϝαριστέρας γραφᾶς ὀϝ κατὺ αἶσαν ἄψατυ ἀ Ἀνθολογικά.
Rhetorica, Anthologica does not handle right-to-left writing correctly.
𐠕𐠭𐠌𐠍𐠜𐠫𐠍𐠰𐠕𐠚𐠍𐠦𐠖𐠃𐠚𐠎𐠲𐠥𐠪𐠮𐠣𐠩𐠊𐠣𐠞𐠫𐠵𐠊𐠱𐠀𐠂𐠨𐠙𐠞𐠨𐠱𐠃𐠮𐠢𐠦𐠒𐠟𐠸𐠴𐠃𐠁𐠄𐠋𐠀𐠞𐠨𐠱
me ta ki ko no so ko to me ne ko ro mi o ne ku wa ri si te ra se ka ra pa so wo ka tu a i sa na pa sa tu o te pu ro lo pe xe wi o e u a pa sa tu
μεταγιγνώσκω. τὸ μὲν Χρώμιόν γ᾽ ὐϝαριστέρας γραφᾶς ὀϝ κατὺ αἶσαν ἄψατυ· ὁ δὲ Πυρολώπηξ ϝιο εὖ γε ἄψατυ
I take it back. Chromium doesn't handle right-to-left writing correctly. Firefox handles it just fine.
me ta ki ko no so ko to me ne ko ro mi o ne ku wa ri si te ra se ka ra pa so wo ka tu a i sa na pa sa tu o te pu ro lo pe xe wi o e u a pa sa tu
μεταγιγνώσκω. τὸ μὲν Χρώμιόν γ᾽ ὐϝαριστέρας γραφᾶς ὀϝ κατὺ αἶσαν ἄψατυ· ὁ δὲ Πυρολώπηξ ϝιο εὖ γε ἄψατυ
I take it back. Chromium doesn't handle right-to-left writing correctly. Firefox handles it just fine.