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Universe and Language Management: Planning (2014-02-09 16:05:14) :
Didn't think anyone would try that yet! I guess since nothing's exploded yet, I'll convert over the other old documents.
Didn't think anyone would try that yet! I guess since nothing's exploded yet, I'll convert over the other old documents.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-09 16:05:14.
Translational Faux Pas (2014-02-09 03:11:22) :
There is a famous (sadly, apocryphal) example of early automated translation from English to Russian:
Original: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak
Should be: дух бодр, плоть же немощна
Came out as: спирт, конечно, готов, но мясо протухло (The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten)
There is a famous (sadly, apocryphal) example of early automated translation from English to Russian:
Original: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak
Should be: дух бодр, плоть же немощна
Came out as: спирт, конечно, готов, но мясо протухло (The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten)
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-09 03:11:22.
NSFW Pictures (2014-02-09 03:04:38) :
Actually, I found the auto-translated auto-transcribed subtitles were about 40-50% comprehensible. (It is impressive!)
But it's not just forklifts that do stupid lifting tricks:
[image:http://i.imgur.com/WbaQv.jpg|width: 500px]
Actually, I found the auto-translated auto-transcribed subtitles were about 40-50% comprehensible. (It is impressive!)
But it's not just forklifts that do stupid lifting tricks:
[image:http://i.imgur.com/WbaQv.jpg|width: 500px]
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-09 03:04:38.
Universe and Language Management: Planning (2014-02-09 02:12:06) :
Rolled out the Lablog-style Recursive Wiki Pages, which bring edit previews, edit history, file attachments, discussion, and child pages. Still some rough edges—they don't respect floatpics, making floatpics totally useless. (Not sure if a chapter can even find its floatpic without knowing its group?)
Also added Lects/Languages and Language Families. No more shoe-horning everything into wikis/chapters!
Rolled out the Lablog-style Recursive Wiki Pages, which bring edit previews, edit history, file attachments, discussion, and child pages. Still some rough edges—they don't respect floatpics, making floatpics totally useless. (Not sure if a chapter can even find its floatpic without knowing its group?)
Also added Lects/Languages and Language Families. No more shoe-horning everything into wikis/chapters!
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-09 02:12:06.
Universe and Language Management: Planning :
This is a big topic, so I want to lay out a big long thread here and get input for what people think will be useful and what should be prioritized.
This post will hold the overall plan.
[h2]Glossary[/h2]
* a [i]template[/i] is a type of page on the site. A forum post is one type of page; they use a template called "Linear Post". Blog comments are another type, dictionary words are a third, user profiles are a fourth, and so on.
* Many of the site's special pages are [i]...
This is a big topic, so I want to lay out a big long thread here and get input for what people think will be useful and what should be prioritized.
This post will hold the overall plan.
[h2]Glossary[/h2]
* a [i]template[/i] is a type of page on the site. A forum post is one type of page; they use a template called "Linear Post". Blog comments are another type, dictionary words are a third, user profiles are a fourth, and so on.
* Many of the site's special pages are [i]...
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-09 02:10:16.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-02-08 15:37:10) :
[b]Λατῐνα ῦεμνωκωνιδτάναι ῐρεζη και, εκλά![/b]
[b]Latína wemnokonidtanai írezé kai, ekla![/b]
[g latin-SG.F.NOM]la'ti:na[/g] [g epic_literature-element-PL.F.ACC]wɛmno:ko:nɪ'ɾaːnaɪ[/g] [g have-3.SG.AOR]'i:ɹɛze:[/g] [g GNO]kaɪ,[/g] [g however]ɛ'kla![/g]
Latin has its moments of greatness, though!
[b]Λατῐνα ῦεμνωκωνιδτάναι ῐρεζη και, εκλά![/b]
[b]Latína wemnokonidtanai írezé kai, ekla![/b]
[g latin-SG.F.NOM]la'ti:na[/g] [g epic_literature-element-PL.F.ACC]wɛmno:ko:nɪ'ɾaːnaɪ[/g] [g have-3.SG.AOR]'i:ɹɛze:[/g] [g GNO]kaɪ,[/g] [g however]ɛ'kla![/g]
Latin has its moments of greatness, though!
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-08 15:42:34.
Forumworld (2014-02-08 11:37:10) :
Yes, and let's start with pseudo-Peleponnesos to keep the segregatory effect totally under control.
N.B.—I've started work on language families; they're not ready for use yet though. Don't panic when you see the universe edit interface.
Yes, and let's start with pseudo-Peleponnesos to keep the segregatory effect totally under control.
N.B.—I've started work on language families; they're not ready for use yet though. Don't panic when you see the universe edit interface.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-08 11:37:10.
Universe and Language Management: Planning (2014-02-08 02:15:25) :
Pfft. 2D maps? [http://memory.rhetori.ca/globe/Apps/HelloWorld.html|Not on my watch!]
Pfft. 2D maps? [http://memory.rhetori.ca/globe/Apps/HelloWorld.html|Not on my watch!]
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-08 02:15:25.
Forumworld (2014-02-07 21:20:29) :
One area is perfect fine with me—definitely better than disintegrated isolation.
One area is perfect fine with me—definitely better than disintegrated isolation.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 21:21:22.
Derivation ideas (2014-02-05 02:21:31) :
In an early episode of Conlangery they discuss the "[style: font-family: monospace]bignum[/style] words for snow in Inuit/Eskimo languages" myth. While this is glossed over, they [i]do[/i] go on to mention that at least one language in the general region (I forget which) has a verb-producing affix that, applied to a noun, means "to be freezing in one's ~".
So when you're satisfied with all of the purely functional derivations, you may want to consider something uniquely culture-bound; p...
In an early episode of Conlangery they discuss the "[style: font-family: monospace]bignum[/style] words for snow in Inuit/Eskimo languages" myth. While this is glossed over, they [i]do[/i] go on to mention that at least one language in the general region (I forget which) has a verb-producing affix that, applied to a noun, means "to be freezing in one's ~".
So when you're satisfied with all of the purely functional derivations, you may want to consider something uniquely culture-bound; p...
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 19:00:14.
Book requests and recommendations thread (2014-02-07 17:39:50) :
I really wish I knew—might go to the [http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/home/storelocator/storedetails/200/|local giant bookstore] sometime and see if I can compare what's on the shelves.
I really wish I knew—might go to the [http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/home/storelocator/storedetails/200/|local giant bookstore] sometime and see if I can compare what's on the shelves.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 17:39:50.
Forumworld (2014-02-07 17:37:33) :
Then let's do that—we can have a western region, as Hurq outlined, and an eastern region, in the island chain(s) on the other side of the mainland. I dub these pseudo-Peleponnesos and pseudo-Nippon, respectively.
Then let's do that—we can have a western region, as Hurq outlined, and an eastern region, in the island chain(s) on the other side of the mainland. I dub these pseudo-Peleponnesos and pseudo-Nippon, respectively.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 17:37:33.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-02-07 17:35:00) :
[b]Σωλεζῐ ηθελῐϩω ϥινδρή! Σα νᾴτῑ τῑτινάρα ϥιτά![/b]
[g less]Solezí[/g] [g lonely-M.SG.S_COMP]éthelího[/g] [g COP-2.SG.IMP]vindré![/g] [g 1-F.SG.NOM]Sa[/g] [g new]naití[/g] [g letter-CLASS-F.SG.ACC]títinara[/g] [g COP-1.SG.LIQ]vita![/g]
Be less lonely! I have a new alphabet!
[b]Σωλεζῐ ηθελῐϩω ϥινδρή! Σα νᾴτῑ τῑτινάρα ϥιτά![/b]
[g less]Solezí[/g] [g lonely-M.SG.S_COMP]éthelího[/g] [g COP-2.SG.IMP]vindré![/g] [g 1-F.SG.NOM]Sa[/g] [g new]naití[/g] [g letter-CLASS-F.SG.ACC]títinara[/g] [g COP-1.SG.LIQ]vita![/g]
Be less lonely! I have a new alphabet!
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 17:35:00.
Forumworld (2014-02-07 16:42:09) :
Woo! I'm liking this. Time to start picking loci!
Woo! I'm liking this. Time to start picking loci!
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-07 16:42:09.
Bugs and missing features (2014-02-06 23:09:48) :
Done. Last 20 posts will be shown when you click on the thread title.
[b]EDIT:[/b] or the "newest post" link at the bottom of the forum's home page.
Done. Last 20 posts will be shown when you click on the thread title.
[b]EDIT:[/b] or the "newest post" link at the bottom of the forum's home page.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-06 23:12:09.
Bugs and missing features (2014-02-05 16:18:29) :
Yeah...
yeah...............
It's inevitable that inset stuff like that (they're called [style:font-family:monospace]float[/style]s in CSS) causes problems with box layouts. You wouldn't think they would, but they do! This is why Wikipedia doesn't float its tables of contents.
I'll rework the layout on news posts to have a bigger header, but there will probably always be at least one way to make ugly box-layout-related messes.
Yeah...
yeah...............
It's inevitable that inset stuff like that (they're called [style:font-family:monospace]float[/style]s in CSS) causes problems with box layouts. You wouldn't think they would, but they do! This is why Wikipedia doesn't float its tables of contents.
I'll rework the layout on news posts to have a bigger header, but there will probably always be at least one way to make ugly box-layout-related messes.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-05 16:18:56.
Bugs and missing features (2014-02-05 02:53:07) :
Actually in this case it's just old code—the auto-redirects are kind of a recent thing. The new Recursive Wiki Page template uses them, so after I'm done integrating it, I'll update everything else to follow suit.
Actually in this case it's just old code—the auto-redirects are kind of a recent thing. The new Recursive Wiki Page template uses them, so after I'm done integrating it, I'll update everything else to follow suit.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-05 02:53:07.
Forumworld (2014-02-05 02:51:37) :
I was thinking Minoan or Homeric, if it helps.
I was thinking Minoan or Homeric, if it helps.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-05 02:51:37.
Reduplication issues in my conlang (crosspost from blog) (2014-02-05 02:49:58) :
Intuitionalistically, I don't see a problem with it; there are lots of examples of systems where affixes can (appear to) have inverse effects on words just because you provide a different root. "Inflammable" is a great English example of this—a naïve English speaker will assume it means "not flammable."
Given that, I think this is actually a really natural problem for a language to have, and it would probably be solved by memorizing individual words from context. Over time, I bet the bo...
Intuitionalistically, I don't see a problem with it; there are lots of examples of systems where affixes can (appear to) have inverse effects on words just because you provide a different root. "Inflammable" is a great English example of this—a naïve English speaker will assume it means "not flammable."
Given that, I think this is actually a really natural problem for a language to have, and it would probably be solved by memorizing individual words from context. Over time, I bet the bo...
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-05 02:50:20.
A Flat Universe (2014-02-05 02:32:30) :
I think I get it—though it's a bit tricky. The toroidal explanation, while topologically accurate, is probably going to confuse a lot of people. Did you ever get around to drawing that diagram?
I think I get it—though it's a bit tricky. The toroidal explanation, while topologically accurate, is probably going to confuse a lot of people. Did you ever get around to drawing that diagram?
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-02-05 02:32:30.
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