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The Historical Linguistics Thread (2014-09-27 22:42:27) :
[quote Morrígan, Baroness][quote KathAveara, Baroness of United Kingdom]Will you attempt to standardise things this time round, Morrígan? Like, transcription, and probably inflection classes (as no-one seems to entirely agree, at least on the verbs)[/quote]
I did try last time; I had 3000 roots taken from 3 different sources and relatively few inconsistencies. I'll be modeling each source separately, and then linking all of them to create a single source with provenance back to the original ...
[quote Morrígan, Baroness][quote KathAveara, Baroness of United Kingdom]Will you attempt to standardise things this time round, Morrígan? Like, transcription, and probably inflection classes (as no-one seems to entirely agree, at least on the verbs)[/quote]
I did try last time; I had 3000 roots taken from 3 different sources and relatively few inconsistencies. I'll be modeling each source separately, and then linking all of them to create a single source with provenance back to the original ...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-27 22:42:27.
The Historical Linguistics Thread (2014-09-27 21:55:56) :
[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0OXCxaSD88nhFeWPNB39VIa1h43oZPQNCNoC9dCNa8/edit?usp=sharing]Here's[/url] the link to the spreadsheet. Slow going. In a fit of optimism, there are Latin and Sanskrit sheets which will eventually be worked on. I might edit the permissions so that it's more of a collaborative project, once I've entered in all the words in [i]A Basic Greek Vocabulary.[/i]
[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0OXCxaSD88nhFeWPNB39VIa1h43oZPQNCNoC9dCNa8/edit?usp=sharing]Here's[/url] the link to the spreadsheet. Slow going. In a fit of optimism, there are Latin and Sanskrit sheets which will eventually be worked on. I might edit the permissions so that it's more of a collaborative project, once I've entered in all the words in [i]A Basic Greek Vocabulary.[/i]
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-27 21:55:56.
The Historical Linguistics Thread (2014-09-26 18:57:02) :
This is a great time to plug the project [i]I'm[/i] working on, then! I'm in my third semester of Greek, so I decided I wanted to make a set of Anki flashcards for every word in J. R. Cheadle's [i]Basic Greek Vocabulary[/i].
Then I realized that I wanted to put in etymology tags, since a Greek word is much easier to learn if it has a Latin or Sanskrit cognate.
Then I realized that that's a much bigger project than Anki can handle if I want it done thoroughly. So I'm creating a ...
This is a great time to plug the project [i]I'm[/i] working on, then! I'm in my third semester of Greek, so I decided I wanted to make a set of Anki flashcards for every word in J. R. Cheadle's [i]Basic Greek Vocabulary[/i].
Then I realized that I wanted to put in etymology tags, since a Greek word is much easier to learn if it has a Latin or Sanskrit cognate.
Then I realized that that's a much bigger project than Anki can handle if I want it done thoroughly. So I'm creating a ...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-27 13:12:16.
Reference Wiki Discussion/Collaboration Thread (2014-09-27 13:09:45) :
[quote Nortaneous, Marquis, Maryland][bongos play in the distance. an entire room smoaks an hit on farge whead blonts in unison s.w.e.d. smoak wewd every dag. an english major chainsmokes into his typewriter. he gets up to shit, trips, and breaks his tenth pair of sunglasses. immediately he bursts into very poetic tears, which fall from his face and hit the typewriter keys and begin to type out what would become his best-selling novel. it begins: "Fuck you idiot piece of shit. Heres a truth for ...
[quote Nortaneous, Marquis, Maryland][bongos play in the distance. an entire room smoaks an hit on farge whead blonts in unison s.w.e.d. smoak wewd every dag. an english major chainsmokes into his typewriter. he gets up to shit, trips, and breaks his tenth pair of sunglasses. immediately he bursts into very poetic tears, which fall from his face and hit the typewriter keys and begin to type out what would become his best-selling novel. it begins: "Fuck you idiot piece of shit. Heres a truth for ...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-27 13:09:45.
What listenst thou? Non-English Version (2014-09-26 10:06:02) :
[youtube:RjPUPRXaQ5w]
[youtube:RjPUPRXaQ5w]
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-26 10:06:02.
PHOIBLE: Phonetics Information Base and Lexicon :
[url=http://phoible.org/]This[/url] is pretty new. It's a big database of phonological inventories and data from a whole mound of languages, and looks like it could use some plugging. It contains a lot of phonological data for languages that don't have anything on Wikipedia, so I've started idly copying some inventories over to Wiki articles.
[url=http://phoible.org/]This[/url] is pretty new. It's a big database of phonological inventories and data from a whole mound of languages, and looks like it could use some plugging. It contains a lot of phonological data for languages that don't have anything on Wikipedia, so I've started idly copying some inventories over to Wiki articles.
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-24 03:31:19.
Is English in the early stages of losing pronoun case and verb concordance? :
Consider the following two sentences I've found as Reddit post titles.
[i]Me [26 M] caught my girlfriend [21 F] of 3 months with another guy a couple weeks ago.[/i]
[i]Me [19 M] just ended a friendship [18 F] due to feelings of affection.[/i]
Somehow, only the 1s object pronoun seems natural here- "him" or "us" would sound a little odder- and then only when there's something causing a hiatus between the subject and the verb.
I've also heard "[subject noun] and...
Consider the following two sentences I've found as Reddit post titles.
[i]Me [26 M] caught my girlfriend [21 F] of 3 months with another guy a couple weeks ago.[/i]
[i]Me [19 M] just ended a friendship [18 F] due to feelings of affection.[/i]
Somehow, only the 1s object pronoun seems natural here- "him" or "us" would sound a little odder- and then only when there's something causing a hiatus between the subject and the verb.
I've also heard "[subject noun] and...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-19 09:49:10.
happiness thread (2014-09-18 21:09:18) :
I've discovered something I want to save money up for even more than books: a Vespa.
[img]http://www.carsfotodb.com/uploads/moto-vespa/moto-vespa-vespa-pk-125-plurimatic/moto-vespa-vespa-pk-125-plurimatic-10.jpg[/img]
I mean...woah. You can even get sidecars for them!
I've discovered something I want to save money up for even more than books: a Vespa.
[img]http://www.carsfotodb.com/uploads/moto-vespa/moto-vespa-vespa-pk-125-plurimatic/moto-vespa-vespa-pk-125-plurimatic-10.jpg[/img]
I mean...woah. You can even get sidecars for them!
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-18 21:09:18.
Area of fictional landmasses (2014-09-16 08:58:33) :
Photoshop Elements is, IIRC, more than good enough for map-making- Zomp's old maps used it, although I don't know about his newer ones (like the Historical Atlas of Arcél).
Now, whether you know enough about how to use it- that is a different story. (I have no tablet, but in any case can barely use Elements or GIMP to save my life...)
Photoshop Elements is, IIRC, more than good enough for map-making- Zomp's old maps used it, although I don't know about his newer ones (like the Historical Atlas of Arcél).
Now, whether you know enough about how to use it- that is a different story. (I have no tablet, but in any case can barely use Elements or GIMP to save my life...)
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-16 08:58:33.
Maps (2014-09-15 10:01:52) :
Does this imply that the Eastern US may have been settled...across the Atlantic? That seems unlikely.
Does this imply that the Eastern US may have been settled...across the Atlantic? That seems unlikely.
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-15 10:01:52.
Grrr Thread (2014-09-14 20:43:57) :
Well, it isn't [i]that[/i] hard for Arabic and Persian- just start looking for instances of پ. So much of literary Norwegian is based on Danish, though...
Well, it isn't [i]that[/i] hard for Arabic and Persian- just start looking for instances of پ. So much of literary Norwegian is based on Danish, though...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-14 20:43:57.
Grrr Thread (2014-09-14 20:01:14) :
[quote meficat, Cool Cat][quote dhok, Eques]Newest pet peeve: library staffers who can't tell the difference between Spanish and Portuguese.[/quote]
What about telling apart Castilian Spanish and Catalan?[/quote]
Catalan doesn't do final -o on its masculine nouns, has <ç>, and doesn't break VL *ɛ ɔ.
The Romance languages are pretty easy to tell apart, honestly. I think something like Danish vs. Norwegian would be harder than any of the Romance pairings, and if y...
[quote meficat, Cool Cat][quote dhok, Eques]Newest pet peeve: library staffers who can't tell the difference between Spanish and Portuguese.[/quote]
What about telling apart Castilian Spanish and Catalan?[/quote]
Catalan doesn't do final -o on its masculine nouns, has <ç>, and doesn't break VL *ɛ ɔ.
The Romance languages are pretty easy to tell apart, honestly. I think something like Danish vs. Norwegian would be harder than any of the Romance pairings, and if y...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-14 20:01:14.
Grrr Thread (2014-09-14 13:28:59) :
Newest pet peeve: library staffers who can't tell the difference between Spanish and Portuguese.
Newest pet peeve: library staffers who can't tell the difference between Spanish and Portuguese.
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-14 13:28:59.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-09-09 21:25:55) :
[quote Nortaneous][quote meficat][quote Nortaneous][b]dzerbqushx chi[/b]
y'all need to go to church[/quote]
[b]Ñə̀rai tañə ‘tsərts’? Yə̀ mu saraha sai.[/b]
[i]What is ‘church’? I don't know that.[/i][/quote]
[b]nǁu churc hwɔ nǁu ʔip ɓo ʎiʔ xɛ ɕe[/b]
church is a place you should go to[/quote]
[b]Čā k'ē p'an tʰi-maŋ kʷe čʰū hān[/b]
[i]think join should house-worship 1s 2s still[/i]
Do you still think I should join a monestary?...
[quote Nortaneous][quote meficat][quote Nortaneous][b]dzerbqushx chi[/b]
y'all need to go to church[/quote]
[b]Ñə̀rai tañə ‘tsərts’? Yə̀ mu saraha sai.[/b]
[i]What is ‘church’? I don't know that.[/i][/quote]
[b]nǁu churc hwɔ nǁu ʔip ɓo ʎiʔ xɛ ɕe[/b]
church is a place you should go to[/quote]
[b]Čā k'ē p'an tʰi-maŋ kʷe čʰū hān[/b]
[i]think join should house-worship 1s 2s still[/i]
Do you still think I should join a monestary?...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-09 21:25:55.
Talk in a natlang, y'all (2014-09-08 10:11:29) :
[b]Lingua Lusitaniae ipsae est multo insaniora, quam lingua Brasiliae. Ecce vocales![/b]
[i]European Portuguese is much crazier than Brazilian. Look at the vowels![/i]
[b]Lingua Lusitaniae ipsae est multo insaniora, quam lingua Brasiliae. Ecce vocales![/b]
[i]European Portuguese is much crazier than Brazilian. Look at the vowels![/i]
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-08 10:11:29.
The Bad Maps Thread :
While I procrastinate on scanning a better version of the gem I found in my college newspaper, here's a World Cup itinerary from Germany.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/83PU8zY.jpg[/img]
While I procrastinate on scanning a better version of the gem I found in my college newspaper, here's a World Cup itinerary from Germany.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/83PU8zY.jpg[/img]
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-09-04 22:21:53.
The Historical Linguistics Thread (2014-08-30 14:38:27) :
[quote Nessari]Yeah, I first ran into it in like 1998, and the only thing that's changed since then that wasn't cosmetic so far as I could tell is the url and the [http://nuristan.info/Current.html|local situation update.]
[quote]Nort: I think what I'm recalling is that I'd been advised by several sources that I could not realistically get away with having č j as reflexes for *ḱ ǵ in an a posteriori IE language. Seems I'll have to rethink that... [/quote]
o_O do you mean people sayi...
[quote Nessari]Yeah, I first ran into it in like 1998, and the only thing that's changed since then that wasn't cosmetic so far as I could tell is the url and the [http://nuristan.info/Current.html|local situation update.]
[quote]Nort: I think what I'm recalling is that I'd been advised by several sources that I could not realistically get away with having č j as reflexes for *ḱ ǵ in an a posteriori IE language. Seems I'll have to rethink that... [/quote]
o_O do you mean people sayi...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-08-30 14:41:09.
The Historical Linguistics Thread (2014-08-29 08:55:27) :
Ah, I must have confused the two...woops. Thanks, Nessari. Also, wow, that website is an antique by now...
Nort: I think what I'm recalling is that I'd been advised by several sources that I could not realistically get away with having [i]č j[/i] as reflexes for [i]*ḱ ǵ[/i] in an a posteriori IE language. Seems I'll have to rethink that...
Ah, I must have confused the two...woops. Thanks, Nessari. Also, wow, that website is an antique by now...
Nort: I think what I'm recalling is that I'd been advised by several sources that I could not realistically get away with having [i]č j[/i] as reflexes for [i]*ḱ ǵ[/i] in an a posteriori IE language. Seems I'll have to rethink that...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-08-29 09:04:09.
Talk in a natlang, y'all (2014-08-28 22:11:46) :
[quote Querubín][quote dhok][b]Myös, mä olen päättänyt mun kurssia Kreikkalaisen kielen eilen![/b]
[i]Also, I finished my Greek course yesterday![/i] [/quote][b]Quō librō ūsī estis in cursū?[/b]
What book did you use in your course?[/quote]
[b]Mä käyttäin [i]Alpha to Omega[/i]. On aika hyvä- sä opet lisää, kuin Athenazessa, mutta se on paljon helpompaa kuin "Greek: An Intensive Course."[/b]
[i]I used [b]Alpha to Omega.[/b] It's pretty good- you learn more than in Athenaze, b...
[quote Querubín][quote dhok][b]Myös, mä olen päättänyt mun kurssia Kreikkalaisen kielen eilen![/b]
[i]Also, I finished my Greek course yesterday![/i] [/quote][b]Quō librō ūsī estis in cursū?[/b]
What book did you use in your course?[/quote]
[b]Mä käyttäin [i]Alpha to Omega[/i]. On aika hyvä- sä opet lisää, kuin Athenazessa, mutta se on paljon helpompaa kuin "Greek: An Intensive Course."[/b]
[i]I used [b]Alpha to Omega.[/b] It's pretty good- you learn more than in Athenaze, b...
owned by dhok, last edited 2014-08-28 22:11:46.
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