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On Early Conlang Development (2018-12-31 12:55:52) :
What I usually do is start with the "present-day" forms (for whatever value of present day) and then see where I can introduce cool diachronically motivated stuff. Usually that means making up some stuff, coming up with a "reconstruction" that could explain it, change stuff to fit these proto-forms, then decide I want the modern language to be different and changing the proto-forms accordingly, and so on. I'm not sure I have a really good example of this anywhere -- I'm pretty terrible at publis...
What I usually do is start with the "present-day" forms (for whatever value of present day) and then see where I can introduce cool diachronically motivated stuff. Usually that means making up some stuff, coming up with a "reconstruction" that could explain it, change stuff to fit these proto-forms, then decide I want the modern language to be different and changing the proto-forms accordingly, and so on. I'm not sure I have a really good example of this anywhere -- I'm pretty terrible at publis...
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Quote Thread (2018-12-27 13:29:40) :
* pthag chuckles
< pthag> you mean the chaos emeralds?
* pthag chuckles
< pthag> you mean the chaos emeralds?
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What are you listening to? (2018-12-21 05:25:58) :
Hi aveclove! Welcome to Annie ~
Hi aveclove! Welcome to Annie ~
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If your conlang were a natlang... (2018-11-26 04:39:34) :
Jalvaan would be something spoken in the Ancient Near East. Elamite's long-lost sister perhaps?
[i]Yehlammat bōš louvayīlhan yamukeiyam Šinar ivaidō yapēhottūn deki yore tāmbavān yaneftūn ki yahōrā yalepšur.[/i]
Kangshi is, of course, some form of Tibeto-Burman, maybe even Qiangic.
[i]tɤmqɤbstau qxâ bníe btɤʁmâ bɤŋmqɤʐoʁ mzɤpa[/i]
Ntaratu and Nyipa would be spoken in Papua New Guinea. I'm sure there's some way to integrate them into Trans-New Guinea.
[i]koyaikolŋewa...
Jalvaan would be something spoken in the Ancient Near East. Elamite's long-lost sister perhaps?
[i]Yehlammat bōš louvayīlhan yamukeiyam Šinar ivaidō yapēhottūn deki yore tāmbavān yaneftūn ki yahōrā yalepšur.[/i]
Kangshi is, of course, some form of Tibeto-Burman, maybe even Qiangic.
[i]tɤmqɤbstau qxâ bníe btɤʁmâ bɤŋmqɤʐoʁ mzɤpa[/i]
Ntaratu and Nyipa would be spoken in Papua New Guinea. I'm sure there's some way to integrate them into Trans-New Guinea.
[i]koyaikolŋewa...
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Fish makes you more intelligent :
yes, this really wanted gloss tags. too lazy for that right now though
[b]Āni olkar uvakku leidan yākehmallur.[/b]
[code]two man-PL together road-DIR 3pA-3sO-travel-INCH-PST-3pS[/code]
Two men set off travelling together.
[b]Leidē yājīyo yararrā kūhoulyar yāršānyveftur, yō gāfman birjan da, ānyō tēpun yoš.[/b]
[code]road-LOC 3pA-3sO-eat-NMLZ 3sS-3pO-exist-CVB.FUT provision-PL 3pA-3pO-buy-PST-3pS, one cheese-DIR bread-DIR and,
other fish-DIR that.[/code]
The...
yes, this really wanted gloss tags. too lazy for that right now though
[b]Āni olkar uvakku leidan yākehmallur.[/b]
[code]two man-PL together road-DIR 3pA-3sO-travel-INCH-PST-3pS[/code]
Two men set off travelling together.
[b]Leidē yājīyo yararrā kūhoulyar yāršānyveftur, yō gāfman birjan da, ānyō tēpun yoš.[/b]
[code]road-LOC 3pA-3sO-eat-NMLZ 3sS-3pO-exist-CVB.FUT provision-PL 3pA-3pO-buy-PST-3pS, one cheese-DIR bread-DIR and,
other fish-DIR that.[/code]
The...
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Remember the 90's? (2018-10-28 06:46:34) :
very happy that particular look died tbqh
very happy that particular look died tbqh
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im gay (2018-10-14 16:57:31) :
[image:https://imgur.com/dvUfxji.png|Your gender is rabbit]
reminder
[image:https://imgur.com/dvUfxji.png|Your gender is rabbit]
reminder
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H13lang Scratchpad (2018-10-14 11:14:14) :
[quote Hallow XIII, 子]
[table]
[tr][th][th]Labial[th]Alveolar[th]Palatal[th]Velar[th]Glottal
[tr][th]Plain Stop[td]p[td]t[td][td]k[td]
[tr][th]Voiced Stop[td]b[td]d[td]dʒ~tʃ[td]ɡ[td]
[tr][th]Nasal[td]m[td]n[td]ɲ[td][td]
[tr][th]Fricative[td]f[td]s[td]ʃ[td][td]h
[tr][th]Resonant[td]v[td]r l[td]j[td][td]
[/table]
The vowels are a e i o u plus length.[/quote]
A slight update! There is now also /ʎ/, spelt ly, and <j> is now [dʒ~ʒ], with no voic...
[quote Hallow XIII, 子]
[table]
[tr][th][th]Labial[th]Alveolar[th]Palatal[th]Velar[th]Glottal
[tr][th]Plain Stop[td]p[td]t[td][td]k[td]
[tr][th]Voiced Stop[td]b[td]d[td]dʒ~tʃ[td]ɡ[td]
[tr][th]Nasal[td]m[td]n[td]ɲ[td][td]
[tr][th]Fricative[td]f[td]s[td]ʃ[td][td]h
[tr][th]Resonant[td]v[td]r l[td]j[td][td]
[/table]
The vowels are a e i o u plus length.[/quote]
A slight update! There is now also /ʎ/, spelt ly, and <j> is now [dʒ~ʒ], with no voic...
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H13lang Scratchpad (2018-10-13 04:38:40) :
This post uses the orthography rather than IPA because I’m on my phone and X-SAMPA is unreadable
Before /i/, the coronals /t d n l r/ palatalized to /č j ny ly n/. Before /y/, the same happened, except that (in the “standard” dialect, i.e. the one I write in) /ry/ stated unchanged. č later merged into š in all positions, and /y/ dropped after palatals. Clusters of /ny ly/ + /y/ were later restored by the shift of prevocalic /g/ to /y/ after palatals and /i/, which rule remains syn...
This post uses the orthography rather than IPA because I’m on my phone and X-SAMPA is unreadable
Before /i/, the coronals /t d n l r/ palatalized to /č j ny ly n/. Before /y/, the same happened, except that (in the “standard” dialect, i.e. the one I write in) /ry/ stated unchanged. č later merged into š in all positions, and /y/ dropped after palatals. Clusters of /ny ly/ + /y/ were later restored by the shift of prevocalic /g/ to /y/ after palatals and /i/, which rule remains syn...
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H13lang Scratchpad (2018-10-12 18:04:11) :
Hello, here are an update on Jalvaan. The update is the list of allowed clusters.
[table]
[tr][th][th]p[th]t[th]k[th]b[th]d[th]j[th]g[th]f[th]s[th]š[th]h[th]m[th]n[th]ny[th]v[th]r[th]l[th]ly[th]y
[tr][th]p[td]pp[td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td]pš[td]ph[td]pm[td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td]
[tr][th]t[td][td]tt[td][td][td][td][td][td]tf[td][td][td]th[td]tm[td]tn
[tr][th]k[td][td][td]kk[td][td][td][td][td]kf[td][td]kš[td]kh[td]km
[tr][th]j[td][td][td][td]šb[td]šd[td]...
Hello, here are an update on Jalvaan. The update is the list of allowed clusters.
[table]
[tr][th][th]p[th]t[th]k[th]b[th]d[th]j[th]g[th]f[th]s[th]š[th]h[th]m[th]n[th]ny[th]v[th]r[th]l[th]ly[th]y
[tr][th]p[td]pp[td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td]pš[td]ph[td]pm[td][td][td][td][td][td][td][td]
[tr][th]t[td][td]tt[td][td][td][td][td][td]tf[td][td][td]th[td]tm[td]tn
[tr][th]k[td][td][td]kk[td][td][td][td][td]kf[td][td]kš[td]kh[td]km
[tr][th]j[td][td][td][td]šb[td]šd[td]...
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Isharian-1 (2018-10-12 07:16:54) :
mostly I want to see some stuff happen so I can come in, declare it Insufficiently Historically Opaque and come up with a list of sound changes that will require rejiggling the entire grammar hth
at least that is how I conlang usually
[quote Rhetorica]As far as I can tell from their Wikipedia recordings, [ʕ] is barely audible, and contrast between [ħ] and [h] is ridiculously hard to hear.[/quote]
have you ever heard Arabic in the wild
x/X is a much harder distinction to...
mostly I want to see some stuff happen so I can come in, declare it Insufficiently Historically Opaque and come up with a list of sound changes that will require rejiggling the entire grammar hth
at least that is how I conlang usually
[quote Rhetorica]As far as I can tell from their Wikipedia recordings, [ʕ] is barely audible, and contrast between [ħ] and [h] is ridiculously hard to hear.[/quote]
have you ever heard Arabic in the wild
x/X is a much harder distinction to...
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Anthologica & iSharia Birthdays (2018-10-04 16:00:39) :
November 27th. And happy belated birthday, Izambri!
November 27th. And happy belated birthday, Izambri!
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Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2018-07-14 16:38:55) :
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1][b]Ïa[/b][/quote]
[b]Hayen na methikê u mhethênî mahâlu i-phâwrâ, och inna lhumben fâ khôrchandâ kathûlhû hêk.[/b]
I knew that this language was spoken by Space Aliens, but I didn't think they were Cthulhu worshippers.
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1][b]Ïa[/b][/quote]
[b]Hayen na methikê u mhethênî mahâlu i-phâwrâ, och inna lhumben fâ khôrchandâ kathûlhû hêk.[/b]
I knew that this language was spoken by Space Aliens, but I didn't think they were Cthulhu worshippers.
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Conlang recordings thread (2018-06-03 07:49:31) :
I translated the Babel story into Inggirian and [https://vocaroo.com/i/s1HwERTynsmC|recorded it].
1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
[b]Hers-e ialy maxt byrxgam, maxt lerielgem byragan.[/b]
earth-EZ all one language-INST, one speech-INST speak-PST-3sS.REAL
2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
[b]Nuxymg uraigam iendesdeni amg-a sinaraw bal...
I translated the Babel story into Inggirian and [https://vocaroo.com/i/s1HwERTynsmC|recorded it].
1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
[b]Hers-e ialy maxt byrxgam, maxt lerielgem byragan.[/b]
earth-EZ all one language-INST, one speech-INST speak-PST-3sS.REAL
2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
[b]Nuxymg uraigam iendesdeni amg-a sinaraw bal...
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Absences (2018-05-03 17:15:01) :
o\ ave, amice
o\ ave, amice
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Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2018-03-17 13:41:45) :
[b]Jayešelen; indi yānsin ihahdam ufirīyonīhē.[/b]
I hope so; right now it's snowing and I'm cold.
[b]Jayešelen; indi yānsin ihahdam ufirīyonīhē.[/b]
I hope so; right now it's snowing and I'm cold.
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Quote Thread (2017-12-18 20:43:17) :
<@Rhetorika> how dare u accuse korea of being mongolian
<@Rhetorika> IT IS A NOBLE AND CONFUCIAN LAND!!
<@Rhetorika> how dare u accuse korea of being mongolian
<@Rhetorika> IT IS A NOBLE AND CONFUCIAN LAND!!
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Quote Thread (2017-11-27 17:58:01) :
<@Legion> well old irish has plenty of analogy too, just
<@Legion> in the service of evil
<@Legion> well old irish has plenty of analogy too, just
<@Legion> in the service of evil
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Translat-o-matic (2017-07-30 15:27:16) :
ʐaruman na izɛngarad ʔgiʐɛhɛ̀leháyɔq
[g Sharuman]ʐaruman[/g][g =TOP]=na[/g] [g Isengard]izɛngarad[/g] [g TR.ALLO-]ʔgi-[/g][g raid]ʐɛhɛ̀l[/g][g -PROG]-éha[/g][g =REP]=yɔq[/g]
ʐaruman na izɛngarad ʔgiʐɛhɛ̀leháyɔq
[g Sharuman]ʐaruman[/g][g =TOP]=na[/g] [g Isengard]izɛngarad[/g] [g TR.ALLO-]ʔgi-[/g][g raid]ʐɛhɛ̀l[/g][g -PROG]-éha[/g][g =REP]=yɔq[/g]
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Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2017-07-22 18:59:19) :
[b]Eyáá kruy dééwaa gàb yę̀ę̀hą̀ą̀ ʐɛ̀ɛ̀w ŋa múthúthú ʔibyóó. Qą̀ą̀tshɛ kʂɔ̀r na màà geybámbáʔeʁǫhųų![/b]
[g EXCL]eyáá[/g] [g big]kruy[/g] [g ass]dééw[/g][g -COM]-aa[/g] [g black]gàb[/g] [g skin]yę̀ę̀[/g][g -COM]-aa[/g] [g unmarried_woman]ʐɛ̀ɛ̀w[/g] [g TOP]ŋa[/g] [g nonsense]múthúthú[/g] [g ITR.ALLO-]ʔi-[/g][g sing.REAL]pyóó[/g]. [g old_man]qą̀ą̀tshɛ[/g] [g only]kʂɔ̀r[/g] [g TOP]na[/g] [g this]màà[/g] [g STAT.ALLO-]gè-[/g][g IRR-]∅-[/g][g feel_good]íbá[/g][g -APPL]-mba[/g][g -NEG]-ʔe[/g][g -...
[b]Eyáá kruy dééwaa gàb yę̀ę̀hą̀ą̀ ʐɛ̀ɛ̀w ŋa múthúthú ʔibyóó. Qą̀ą̀tshɛ kʂɔ̀r na màà geybámbáʔeʁǫhųų![/b]
[g EXCL]eyáá[/g] [g big]kruy[/g] [g ass]dééw[/g][g -COM]-aa[/g] [g black]gàb[/g] [g skin]yę̀ę̀[/g][g -COM]-aa[/g] [g unmarried_woman]ʐɛ̀ɛ̀w[/g] [g TOP]ŋa[/g] [g nonsense]múthúthú[/g] [g ITR.ALLO-]ʔi-[/g][g sing.REAL]pyóó[/g]. [g old_man]qą̀ą̀tshɛ[/g] [g only]kʂɔ̀r[/g] [g TOP]na[/g] [g this]màà[/g] [g STAT.ALLO-]gè-[/g][g IRR-]∅-[/g][g feel_good]íbá[/g][g -APPL]-mba[/g][g -NEG]-ʔe[/g][g -...
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