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Sound Change Appliers (2015-07-27 10:24:27) :
Hahah I was JUST thinking about that, because I was curious about JS Burke's Proto-Central-Mountain changes (he gave me an old copy of his rules and lexicon designed for mark's SCA) and I was curious how much more concise (and fast) it would be in my format. But I realized a bunch of his rules probably require this type of treatment. I think I know how to do that.
Ok, to run it: you should be able to just navigate to the folder it's in and run it using [code]toolbox.bat myrules.rule[/co...
Hahah I was JUST thinking about that, because I was curious about JS Burke's Proto-Central-Mountain changes (he gave me an old copy of his rules and lexicon designed for mark's SCA) and I was curious how much more concise (and fast) it would be in my format. But I realized a bunch of his rules probably require this type of treatment. I think I know how to do that.
Ok, to run it: you should be able to just navigate to the folder it's in and run it using [code]toolbox.bat myrules.rule[/co...
owned by Morrígan, last edited 2015-07-27 10:29:06.
Sound Change Appliers (2015-07-27 01:48:05) :
Woah. I've started a lexicon and some rules for a language family I'm working on, and...so elegant! so clear!
I haven't found any bugs yet, but if I do I'll let you know.
(I do have an idea for a feature that could be useful, though I don't know how easy it would be- would it be possible to tie adjacent rules together so that they run at the same time, so that you don't have to worry about their ordering? For example, I've got a vowel lowering rule in Quomonak where *i lo...
Woah. I've started a lexicon and some rules for a language family I'm working on, and...so elegant! so clear!
I haven't found any bugs yet, but if I do I'll let you know.
(I do have an idea for a feature that could be useful, though I don't know how easy it would be- would it be possible to tie adjacent rules together so that they run at the same time, so that you don't have to worry about their ordering? For example, I've got a vowel lowering rule in Quomonak where *i lo...
owned by dhok, last edited 2015-07-27 02:23:22.
dhoklang Scratchpad (NP: Algonquitut?) (2015-07-27 01:12:03) :
Sound changes for Quomonakian, revamped. Also I'm clearly going to need to redo the map, but never mind that...
[b]Very Early Changes, c.-3000 to c.-2500[/b]
Many of these changes can be found in other branches as well.
1. Initial glide-vowel reduction
The weak vowels /e ɨ/ merge with a preceding glide into the vocalic version of that glide when word-initial. Schematically:
we wɨ -> o / #_
ye yɨ -> i / #_
So, *weyɨ̄ *yente -&g...
Sound changes for Quomonakian, revamped. Also I'm clearly going to need to redo the map, but never mind that...
[b]Very Early Changes, c.-3000 to c.-2500[/b]
Many of these changes can be found in other branches as well.
1. Initial glide-vowel reduction
The weak vowels /e ɨ/ merge with a preceding glide into the vocalic version of that glide when word-initial. Schematically:
we wɨ -> o / #_
ye yɨ -> i / #_
So, *weyɨ̄ *yente -&g...
owned by dhok, last edited 2015-07-27 01:50:36.
Argh conworld and conlang scratchpad :
I'm gonna try out these "scratchpads" that are all the rage among Kids These Days and see how it works out. Going to post what I have working on for my conlang and its associated conworld-- Argh, spoken by noble barbarians who sleep on the saddle and drink the rain etc. They are bordered on the north by a jumble of animistic hunter-gatherer tribes, on the south by an old and ~!~Civilized~!~ kingdom called Turenia, with a row of shield mountains between, and on the east and west by nothing in par...
I'm gonna try out these "scratchpads" that are all the rage among Kids These Days and see how it works out. Going to post what I have working on for my conlang and its associated conworld-- Argh, spoken by noble barbarians who sleep on the saddle and drink the rain etc. They are bordered on the north by a jumble of animistic hunter-gatherer tribes, on the south by an old and ~!~Civilized~!~ kingdom called Turenia, with a row of shield mountains between, and on the east and west by nothing in par...
owned by Cev, last edited 2015-07-27 01:02:29.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 19:27:56) :
In Ruhdrelian, since they don't speak more than needed, sentences are generally composed of one word which conveys everything that they want to say. Sometimes this includes multiple meanings.
To say goodbye - they would mean "goodbye my good friend and may you have good fortune until we meet again". They would actually say "Torichbor'enuch" which translates to "my heart goes with you." This is for someone who is familiar like a friend or family member. To say goodbye to someone th...
In Ruhdrelian, since they don't speak more than needed, sentences are generally composed of one word which conveys everything that they want to say. Sometimes this includes multiple meanings.
To say goodbye - they would mean "goodbye my good friend and may you have good fortune until we meet again". They would actually say "Torichbor'enuch" which translates to "my heart goes with you." This is for someone who is familiar like a friend or family member. To say goodbye to someone th...
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 19:27:56.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 18:52:50) :
Granted, I should probably mention that the above information does not apply to Ruhdrelian:)
Granted, I should probably mention that the above information does not apply to Ruhdrelian:)
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 18:52:50.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 18:51:42) :
My favorite constellation name which came from a change of form in order to fit a category is Krózyfái. In this specific language family, o is generally pronounced ah and ai is pronounced eye. The a is generally followed by r, n, or i much like qu always goes together in English. The ar combination produces air and an produces in like captain, so without the accent there's no true a sound. A in this language family does not exist on its own.
My favorite constellation name which came from a change of form in order to fit a category is Krózyfái. In this specific language family, o is generally pronounced ah and ai is pronounced eye. The a is generally followed by r, n, or i much like qu always goes together in English. The ar combination produces air and an produces in like captain, so without the accent there's no true a sound. A in this language family does not exist on its own.
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 18:51:42.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 18:38:37) :
I've finally found a character map which will make typing out my words way easier:)
I've spent the last week working on putting my countries into language families based on common spellings and sounds, then doing the same with my constellations. Using this method has given me a few additional language models to work with. I've noticed that some of the characteristics were common to other families thus providing a way to incorporate borrowed words as well.
Many of the plac...
I've finally found a character map which will make typing out my words way easier:)
I've spent the last week working on putting my countries into language families based on common spellings and sounds, then doing the same with my constellations. Using this method has given me a few additional language models to work with. I've noticed that some of the characteristics were common to other families thus providing a way to incorporate borrowed words as well.
Many of the plac...
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 18:38:37.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 17:50:11) :
[quote seraphinak, Disinterest]I will definitely take a look at these resources, I have the language construction kit, but when it came to the international phonetics I got a bit lost. I don't have the symbols memorized which made it a bit of a difficult read. I'm working on it though :)[/quote]
Oh, you don't need to memorize the whole of the IPA [i]now[/i]. There's more to language than individual words and how they sound – morphology and syntax are just as important because they govern how...
[quote seraphinak, Disinterest]I will definitely take a look at these resources, I have the language construction kit, but when it came to the international phonetics I got a bit lost. I don't have the symbols memorized which made it a bit of a difficult read. I'm working on it though :)[/quote]
Oh, you don't need to memorize the whole of the IPA [i]now[/i]. There's more to language than individual words and how they sound – morphology and syntax are just as important because they govern how...
owned by Jipí, last edited 2015-07-26 17:50:11.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 17:48:11) :
Just curious, but I started a lexicon for Ruhdrelian using a dictionary, is this something others do as well?
I wasn't using every word, only what seemed appropriate.
Just curious, but I started a lexicon for Ruhdrelian using a dictionary, is this something others do as well?
I wasn't using every word, only what seemed appropriate.
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 17:48:11.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 15:35:07) :
[quote seraphinak, Disinterest]It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?[/quote]
Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has [i]way[/i] better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are still better at, e.g. writing more complex ...
[quote seraphinak, Disinterest]It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?[/quote]
Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has [i]way[/i] better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are still better at, e.g. writing more complex ...
owned by Jipí, last edited 2015-07-26 17:45:06.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 17:43:54) :
[quote Jipí, Alkali Metal, Marburg, Germany][quote seraphinak, Disinterest]It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?[/quote]
Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has [i]way[/i] better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are...
[quote Jipí, Alkali Metal, Marburg, Germany][quote seraphinak, Disinterest]It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks ?[/quote]
Well, in that case, how about using a computer, or a laptop? Like, seriously. It has [i]way[/i] better capabilities regarding input than a phone, even though it's certainly astonishing how powerful phones have become over the last 5–10 years. But there's some things that computers are...
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 17:43:54.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2015-07-26 11:36:07) :
[quote masako, Undergraduate][quote Izambri][b]nBeranan mesan mēne kapsimi tire.[/b]
We Perans don't understand a bite about it.[/quote]
[b]ke yatsi ka[/b]
A bite?[/quote]
[b]Oizhà. Donsi lhaussagandh tirnmacer [i]mēne kapsimi tire[/i][/b] "mà gassimar tire" sam "tus anyàrder ont gays".
Yes. I found amusing to translate [i]mēne kapsimi tire[/i] "to not bite thing" as "to not understand a bite".
[quote masako, Undergraduate][quote Izambri][b]nBeranan mesan mēne kapsimi tire.[/b]
We Perans don't understand a bite about it.[/quote]
[b]ke yatsi ka[/b]
A bite?[/quote]
[b]Oizhà. Donsi lhaussagandh tirnmacer [i]mēne kapsimi tire[/i][/b] "mà gassimar tire" sam "tus anyàrder ont gays".
Yes. I found amusing to translate [i]mēne kapsimi tire[/i] "to not bite thing" as "to not understand a bite".
owned by Izambri, last edited 2015-07-26 11:36:07.
Ruhd'relian (2015-07-26 08:28:07) :
[quote Cev, Gene]What is <ծ>?[/quote
It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks?
[quote Cev, Gene]What is <ծ>?[/quote
It is the closest thing to an accent over the o that my phone has. Even the Spanish keyboard doesn't have proper accent marks?
owned by seraphinak, last edited 2015-07-26 08:28:07.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2015-07-26 07:39:34) :
[quote Izambri][b]nBeranan mesan mēne kapsimi tire.[/b]
We Perans don't understand a bite about it.[/quote]
[b]ke yatsi ka[/b]
A bite?
[quote Izambri][b]nBeranan mesan mēne kapsimi tire.[/b]
We Perans don't understand a bite about it.[/quote]
[b]ke yatsi ka[/b]
A bite?
owned by masako, last edited 2015-07-26 07:39:34.
dhoklang Scratchpad (NP: Algonquitut?) (2015-07-25 22:14:31) :
Aaaaand since I'm not in the mood to work on a redo of Old Quomonak's diachronics I'll move onto fucking around with one of the other branches, tentatively referred to as Western Steppe Nahtak. This branch shares a few early changes with Old Quomonakian:
a) the reduction of initial *we/*wɨ, *ye/*yɨ segments to *o *i;
b) the merger of *r and *l into a single phoneme *l;
c) merger of *θC clusters into *sC clusters;
d) loss of *ʔ in *ʔR clusters (where *R = /w ...
Aaaaand since I'm not in the mood to work on a redo of Old Quomonak's diachronics I'll move onto fucking around with one of the other branches, tentatively referred to as Western Steppe Nahtak. This branch shares a few early changes with Old Quomonakian:
a) the reduction of initial *we/*wɨ, *ye/*yɨ segments to *o *i;
b) the merger of *r and *l into a single phoneme *l;
c) merger of *θC clusters into *sC clusters;
d) loss of *ʔ in *ʔR clusters (where *R = /w ...
owned by dhok, last edited 2015-07-26 02:33:39.
dhoklang Scratchpad (NP: Algonquitut?) (2015-07-26 01:45:30) :
A crappy map of the major branches of Nahtak.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/WyGBQgj.png[/img]
Tomorrow I'll probably make a diagram of the major branches with isoglosses. Thinner lines represent closer relationships, so that the Thanahapic languages are more closely related to the Western Steppe languages than they are to the Inland Quomonak languages. This doesn't show isoglosses that stretch across subfamilies or are broken by an intervening family. For example, while it's true tha...
A crappy map of the major branches of Nahtak.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/WyGBQgj.png[/img]
Tomorrow I'll probably make a diagram of the major branches with isoglosses. Thinner lines represent closer relationships, so that the Thanahapic languages are more closely related to the Western Steppe languages than they are to the Inland Quomonak languages. This doesn't show isoglosses that stretch across subfamilies or are broken by an intervening family. For example, while it's true tha...
owned by dhok, last edited 2015-07-26 02:14:41.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2015-07-25 22:16:23) :
[b]Zdquqedeq ndradzube mdzaxle xoritu da chxe gqartupta kharxal.[/b]
[ˈzdʁuʁɛdɛʁ ndraˈdzube ˈmdzaxɫɛ ˈxorʲitu da ˈtʃʰe ˈɢʁartupta ˈkʰarxaɫ]
A subway is an electric railway system devised to carry people in an urban area.
[b]Zdquqedeq ndradzube mdzaxle xoritu da chxe gqartupta kharxal.[/b]
[ˈzdʁuʁɛdɛʁ ndraˈdzube ˈmdzaxɫɛ ˈxorʲitu da ˈtʃʰe ˈɢʁartupta ˈkʰarxaɫ]
A subway is an electric railway system devised to carry people in an urban area.
owned by Nortaneous, last edited 2015-07-25 22:16:23.
dhoklang Scratchpad (NP: Algonquitut?) (2015-07-25 02:39:25) :
Couple executive decisions on the phonology: I'm going to kill the ejective series because I hardly ever use it, it feels weird, and most of the wacky sound changes are deriving from clusters and the like anyways (I've started sketching out sound changes for branch II).
An updated cluster table:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/4oWu5Jj.png[/img]
[s]Additionally, clusters beginning with /N θ s š/ are allowed word-initially.[/s] No initial clusters.
Allowed word-final co...
Couple executive decisions on the phonology: I'm going to kill the ejective series because I hardly ever use it, it feels weird, and most of the wacky sound changes are deriving from clusters and the like anyways (I've started sketching out sound changes for branch II).
An updated cluster table:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/4oWu5Jj.png[/img]
[s]Additionally, clusters beginning with /N θ s š/ are allowed word-initially.[/s] No initial clusters.
Allowed word-final co...
owned by dhok, last edited 2015-07-25 17:32:36.
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