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Translate the previous sounds (2019-05-02 16:16:56) :
[b]frangje[/b] [ˈfɾɒ:ŋʲe] → [b]farán gé[/b] [faˈɹɐːnˀ ge̞] "to go from amount" (using the genitive rather than the ablative), i.e., go big or go home (Ketalán Lilitika)
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Tshentkoisasa [t͡ɕɛntʰˈχoɪɹ̝̊aɹ̝̊a][note][ɹ̝̊] is a slightly-lisped [!s], as in a mild Castillian accent[/note] "the ritual touring of one's past homes prior to marriage" (Doisseian Lilitika)
[b]frangje[/b] [ˈfɾɒ:ŋʲe] → [b]farán gé[/b] [faˈɹɐːnˀ ge̞] "to go from amount" (using the genitive rather than the ablative), i.e., go big or go home (Ketalán Lilitika)
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Tshentkoisasa [t͡ɕɛntʰˈχoɪɹ̝̊aɹ̝̊a][note][ɹ̝̊] is a slightly-lisped [!s], as in a mild Castillian accent[/note] "the ritual touring of one's past homes prior to marriage" (Doisseian Lilitika)
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-05-02 16:17:27.
Newtlang incubator (NP: glot-taolic theory) (2019-04-23 22:37:21) :
Pfft. You jⱵst don't want tⱵ credⱵt ClaudiⱵn.
Pfft. You jⱵst don't want tⱵ credⱵt ClaudiⱵn.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-23 22:37:21.
Newtlang incubator (NP: glot-taolic theory) (2019-04-21 13:04:24) :
it's /j/, it's a real letter that existed, see [https://archive.org/details/IntroductiontoGreekDialects/page/n33|Buck § 5]
it's /j/, it's a real letter that existed, see [https://archive.org/details/IntroductiontoGreekDialects/page/n33|Buck § 5]
owned by twabs, last edited 2019-04-21 13:04:24.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-20 14:37:46) :
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1]...Those also merit explanation.[/quote]
Occitan < langues d'oc < dividing the languages of Gaul into the ones where the word for 'yes' is 'oc' and the ones where the word for 'yes' is 'oïl'.
A few of the Celtic languages still call English by some derivative of 'Saxon', which <~ OE seax 'knife'.
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1]...Those also merit explanation.[/quote]
Occitan < langues d'oc < dividing the languages of Gaul into the ones where the word for 'yes' is 'oc' and the ones where the word for 'yes' is 'oïl'.
A few of the Celtic languages still call English by some derivative of 'Saxon', which <~ OE seax 'knife'.
owned by Nortaneous, last edited 2019-04-20 14:37:46.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-19 15:42:45) :
...Those also merit explanation.
...Those also merit explanation.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-19 15:42:45.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-19 03:08:04) :
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1]You can't name a language "what" without providing backstory! Is it an endonym or the hilarious product of first contact?[/quote]
Europe contains a language called Yes and another called Knife.
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1]You can't name a language "what" without providing backstory! Is it an endonym or the hilarious product of first contact?[/quote]
Europe contains a language called Yes and another called Knife.
owned by Nortaneous, last edited 2019-04-19 03:08:04.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-18 23:18:44) :
You can't name a language "what" without providing backstory! Is it an endonym or the hilarious product of first contact?
You can't name a language "what" without providing backstory! Is it an endonym or the hilarious product of first contact?
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-18 23:18:44.
Bugs, Requests, and Changes (2019-04-18 23:13:25) :
Followup: after looking at the data behind Halian's alt I'm more inclined to think those are Gravatar failures. Will look into it more when I can.
Followup: after looking at the data behind Halian's alt I'm more inclined to think those are Gravatar failures. Will look into it more when I can.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-18 23:13:25.
Bugs, Requests, and Changes (2019-04-18 23:06:24) :
IIRC Halian never gave his alt an avatar after I fixed the underlying problem. Those are just, ah, casualties. I'll edit their user entries so the site no longer mistakenly believes they uploaded avatars.
IIRC Halian never gave his alt an avatar after I fixed the underlying problem. Those are just, ah, casualties. I'll edit their user entries so the site no longer mistakenly believes they uploaded avatars.
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-18 23:06:25.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-11 14:51:38) :
Proto-Namican is still a rather unreasonable target, let's start with Proto-Namicish (Namican proper):
*p *t *c *ṭ *č *k *k° *ʔ
*b *d *ʒ *ḍ *ǯ *g *g°
*m *n *ṇ *ñ *ŋ
*v *s *z *ṣ *ž *x *x° *h
*w *l *ṛ *γ
*i *ü *e *a *u *i· *ü· *e· *a· *u·
*ɛ̣ *ạ *ọ (These vowels probably were long and backed)
Here are thus some preliminary sound changes to Namic proper:
(T = voiceless stops, D = voiced stops)
[code]ṣ -> ł̣
{i ü u} -> 0 / T_C(C)(C)V...
Proto-Namican is still a rather unreasonable target, let's start with Proto-Namicish (Namican proper):
*p *t *c *ṭ *č *k *k° *ʔ
*b *d *ʒ *ḍ *ǯ *g *g°
*m *n *ṇ *ñ *ŋ
*v *s *z *ṣ *ž *x *x° *h
*w *l *ṛ *γ
*i *ü *e *a *u *i· *ü· *e· *a· *u·
*ɛ̣ *ạ *ọ (These vowels probably were long and backed)
Here are thus some preliminary sound changes to Namic proper:
(T = voiceless stops, D = voiced stops)
[code]ṣ -> ł̣
{i ü u} -> 0 / T_C(C)(C)V...
owned by Karch, last edited 2019-04-18 17:05:34.
Newtlang incubator (NP: glot-taolic theory) (2019-04-18 02:33:29) :
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1][quote twabs, Conversational Speaker]ͱ in the middle of Greek[/quote]
ಠ_ಠ[/quote]
pls κονσιdερονι the αλφαbετι γρεκ ι γjουχeς σ̈κϳιπε
[quote Rhetorica, Kelatetía: Dis, Major Belt 1][quote twabs, Conversational Speaker]ͱ in the middle of Greek[/quote]
ಠ_ಠ[/quote]
pls κονσιdερονι the αλφαbετι γρεκ ι γjουχeς σ̈κϳιπε
owned by Nortaneous, last edited 2019-04-18 02:33:29.
Newtlang incubator (NP: glot-taolic theory) (2019-04-17 20:44:52) :
[quote twabs, Conversational Speaker]ͱ in the middle of Greek[/quote]
ಠ_ಠ
[quote twabs, Conversational Speaker]ͱ in the middle of Greek[/quote]
ಠ_ಠ
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2019-04-17 20:44:52.
Quote Thread (2019-04-16 22:18:07) :
<@pharazon> Just passed a guy on the sidewalk raving about Koreans and Chinese in a faux-Asian accent
<@Cev> sure he wasn't just Japanese?
<@pharazon> Just passed a guy on the sidewalk raving about Koreans and Chinese in a faux-Asian accent
<@Cev> sure he wasn't just Japanese?
owned by tiramisu, last edited 2019-04-16 22:18:07.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-12 11:39:05) :
Mrah (from Mrah <'mhra> [m̥ʰɐrˈraː] meaning "what") is a language spoken on the other side of the continent the Namican languages are spoken in.
It has a rather unremarkable consonant inventory and a rather large vowel inventory of 2 x 5 vowels, organized in two vowel harmony sets:
/p t c k ʔ/ <p t c k 7>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/h/ <h>
/w r lʲ/ <w r l>
1: /i e æ o u/ <i e a o u>
2: /ɪ ɛ a ɔ ʊ/ <i e a o u>
The second ha...
Mrah (from Mrah <'mhra> [m̥ʰɐrˈraː] meaning "what") is a language spoken on the other side of the continent the Namican languages are spoken in.
It has a rather unremarkable consonant inventory and a rather large vowel inventory of 2 x 5 vowels, organized in two vowel harmony sets:
/p t c k ʔ/ <p t c k 7>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/h/ <h>
/w r lʲ/ <w r l>
1: /i e æ o u/ <i e a o u>
2: /ɪ ɛ a ɔ ʊ/ <i e a o u>
The second ha...
owned by Karch, last edited 2019-04-16 16:40:13.
The Allosphere (2019-04-11 09:33:14) :
Sound changes to use at some point:
- develop new phonations from the following vowel - Ryukyuan aspiration(?) before high vowels, and "Historically, the aspirated stops in Makhuwa derive from prenasalised voiceless stops (*mp > ph, *nt > tth, *nc > th, *nk > kh) and voiceless stops before a high closed vowel"
- e a o > ɛɛ ʌʌ ɔɔ / _Rə and then a > ɛ ɔ / _Ci _Cu
- maybe the zotic thing is that trisyllabic roots get syncope, so you get some consonant clusters. po...
Sound changes to use at some point:
- develop new phonations from the following vowel - Ryukyuan aspiration(?) before high vowels, and "Historically, the aspirated stops in Makhuwa derive from prenasalised voiceless stops (*mp > ph, *nt > tth, *nc > th, *nk > kh) and voiceless stops before a high closed vowel"
- e a o > ɛɛ ʌʌ ɔɔ / _Rə and then a > ɛ ɔ / _Ci _Cu
- maybe the zotic thing is that trisyllabic roots get syncope, so you get some consonant clusters. po...
owned by Nortaneous, last edited 2019-04-11 09:33:14.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-09 07:14:47) :
*i and *i° seem to merge in rounded environments (into a vowel that evolved as if it was *i in Namican proper but *i° in Whateveric.), so *i° is mostly phonemic.
*i and *i° seem to merge in rounded environments (into a vowel that evolved as if it was *i in Namican proper but *i° in Whateveric.), so *i° is mostly phonemic.
owned by Karch, last edited 2019-04-09 07:14:47.
Karch's scratchpad (2019-04-09 02:34:25) :
Was *i° independently phonemic, or is it just a convenience symbol for *i in rounded environments?
Was *i° independently phonemic, or is it just a convenience symbol for *i in rounded environments?
owned by Hallow XIII, last edited 2019-04-09 02:34:25.
Karch's scratchpad :
So Proto-Namic's phonology is usually reconstructed (here presented in transcription as we can't know what it sounded like as it wasn't written) like this:
*p *t *c *ṭ *c̣ *ť *č *k *k° *ʔ *ʔ°
*b *d *ʒ *ḍ *ʒ̇ *ď *ǯ *g *g°
*m *n *nz *ṇ *ñ *ŋ *ŋ°
*v *s *z *ṣ *ẓ *š *ž *x *x° *h *h°
*w *r *l *ṛ *ḷ *y
*i *e *o *a *į *ę *ǫ *ą *i°
Now there are of course some branches, one of them is Namican proper. Its defining features are the collapse of the retroflex and palatal...
So Proto-Namic's phonology is usually reconstructed (here presented in transcription as we can't know what it sounded like as it wasn't written) like this:
*p *t *c *ṭ *c̣ *ť *č *k *k° *ʔ *ʔ°
*b *d *ʒ *ḍ *ʒ̇ *ď *ǯ *g *g°
*m *n *nz *ṇ *ñ *ŋ *ŋ°
*v *s *z *ṣ *ẓ *š *ž *x *x° *h *h°
*w *r *l *ṛ *ḷ *y
*i *e *o *a *į *ę *ǫ *ą *i°
Now there are of course some branches, one of them is Namican proper. Its defining features are the collapse of the retroflex and palatal...
owned by Karch, last edited 2019-04-08 17:04:39.
Bugs, Requests, and Changes (2019-04-08 15:11:44) :
Something about avatars is still yborken:
[image:https://i.imgur.com/bZ2mCyp.png]
Something about avatars is still yborken:
[image:https://i.imgur.com/bZ2mCyp.png]
owned by Jipí, last edited 2019-04-08 15:11:44.
Newtlang incubator (NP: glot-taolic theory) (2019-04-05 19:22:20) :
το̨ πα̨ς το κκονφον υπερͱενον
το̨ πα̨ς το κκονφον υπερͱενον
owned by twabs, last edited 2019-04-05 19:22:20.
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