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happiness thread (2014-07-31 11:59:25) :
[quote Morrígan]Ultimately, this SCA is part of another system for hypothesis testing proposed reconstructions and sets of rules deriving child forms from them. The fact that it's usable by humans too is an added bonus. IMO, the most important contribution is that it can be used with a feature model, and understands (by default, though you can turn it off) that pʰ is different from p, and that a rule affecting the latter will not affect the former.[/quote]
I think the issue is more that...
[quote Morrígan]Ultimately, this SCA is part of another system for hypothesis testing proposed reconstructions and sets of rules deriving child forms from them. The fact that it's usable by humans too is an added bonus. IMO, the most important contribution is that it can be used with a feature model, and understands (by default, though you can turn it off) that pʰ is different from p, and that a rule affecting the latter will not affect the former.[/quote]
I think the issue is more that...
owned by Nessari, last edited 2014-07-31 12:02:34.
happiness thread (2014-07-31 12:00:59) :
"in theory" yes, but if everything went as In Theory, we wouldn't have this conversation
"in theory" yes, but if everything went as In Theory, we wouldn't have this conversation
owned by Kereb, last edited 2014-07-31 12:00:59.
happiness thread (2014-07-31 11:35:41) :
machining it and then revising by hand as necessary is less work tho
in theory
machining it and then revising by hand as necessary is less work tho
in theory
owned by Hallow XIII, last edited 2014-07-31 11:35:41.
happiness thread (2014-07-31 11:33:54) :
[quote Radius]Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]more work[/i] than just sound-changing all your words by hand.[/quote]
Yeah, I haven't found an SCA yet that wasn't more trouble to learn, and to trick into doing what I need, than just applying th...
[quote Radius]Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]more work[/i] than just sound-changing all your words by hand.[/quote]
Yeah, I haven't found an SCA yet that wasn't more trouble to learn, and to trick into doing what I need, than just applying th...
owned by Kereb, last edited 2014-07-31 11:33:54.
happiness thread (2014-07-31 09:53:26) :
I can do both of those examples. Syllables are a little hard, but I think the approach I've got in mind for metathesis should also work for syllables generally.
Rule feeding and bleeding is definitely hard. Something I'd kind of like to do is analyze rules and produce a graph that examines which rules interact with each other, and which rules are unordered with respect to one another.
Ultimately, this SCA is part of another system for hypothesis testing proposed reconstructions...
I can do both of those examples. Syllables are a little hard, but I think the approach I've got in mind for metathesis should also work for syllables generally.
Rule feeding and bleeding is definitely hard. Something I'd kind of like to do is analyze rules and produce a graph that examines which rules interact with each other, and which rules are unordered with respect to one another.
Ultimately, this SCA is part of another system for hypothesis testing proposed reconstructions...
owned by Morrígan, last edited 2014-07-31 09:53:26.
happiness thread (2014-07-31 01:32:30) :
[quote Radius][quote Rhetorica]No one ever asks for sound change appliers—but that is because no one knows how to use them or what features they offer, and they are generally not willing to admit it.[/quote]
Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]mor...
[quote Radius][quote Rhetorica]No one ever asks for sound change appliers—but that is because no one knows how to use them or what features they offer, and they are generally not willing to admit it.[/quote]
Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]mor...
owned by Nessari, last edited 2014-07-31 01:32:30.
Translat-not-so-matic (2014-07-30 01:28:37) :
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows li...
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows li...
owned by Travis B., last edited 2014-07-31 00:12:53.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 23:20:39) :
[i][style: color: #0033CC]I[/style][style: color: #002EB8]'[/style][style: color: 0029A3]m[/style] [style: color: #00248F]o[/style][style: color: #001F7A]n[/style][style: color: #000080]l[/style][style: color: #000099]y[/style] [style: color: #0000B2]h[/style][style: color: #0000CC]a[/style][style: color: #0000E6]p[/style][style: color: #0000FF]p[/style][style: color: #1919FF]y[/style] [style: color: #1919FF]w[/style][style: color: #3333FF]h[/style][style: color: #4D4DFF]e[/style][style: color: ...
[i][style: color: #0033CC]I[/style][style: color: #002EB8]'[/style][style: color: 0029A3]m[/style] [style: color: #00248F]o[/style][style: color: #001F7A]n[/style][style: color: #000080]l[/style][style: color: #000099]y[/style] [style: color: #0000B2]h[/style][style: color: #0000CC]a[/style][style: color: #0000E6]p[/style][style: color: #0000FF]p[/style][style: color: #1919FF]y[/style] [style: color: #1919FF]w[/style][style: color: #3333FF]h[/style][style: color: #4D4DFF]e[/style][style: color: ...
owned by Nessari, last edited 2014-07-30 23:20:58.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 23:00:33) :
Mathematical homoeroticism. Who could say no?
Mathematical homoeroticism. Who could say no?
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-07-30 23:00:33.
happiness thread (2014-07-30 21:32:34) :
[quote Rhetorica]No one ever asks for sound change appliers—but that is because no one knows how to use them or what features they offer, and they are generally not willing to admit it.[/quote]
Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]more work[/i] tha...
[quote Rhetorica]No one ever asks for sound change appliers—but that is because no one knows how to use them or what features they offer, and they are generally not willing to admit it.[/quote]
Anyone who has much end-user experience with SCAs can tell you that the process of debugging your SC list so the program finally comprehends exactly what you want it to do, a painful and tedious process not given full justice by your phrasing "knows how to use them", is often [i]more work[/i] tha...
owned by Radius, last edited 2014-07-30 21:32:34.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-07-30 21:25:01) :
[i]Cinderella, she seems so easy
“Well it takes one to know one”, she smiles
And she puts her hands in her back pockets
Oh, Bette Davis style
[b]Cindereŀla, sarle dam dàver
“Do, ed fai ont tir a ginarder-ve”, ris
È v’embauce ses teis as nassorte
Oa, sam Bette Davis da[/b][/i]
[i]Cinderella, she seems so easy
“Well it takes one to know one”, she smiles
And she puts her hands in her back pockets
Oh, Bette Davis style
[b]Cindereŀla, sarle dam dàver
“Do, ed fai ont tir a ginarder-ve”, ris
È v’embauce ses teis as nassorte
Oa, sam Bette Davis da[/b][/i]
owned by Izambri, last edited 2014-07-30 21:25:15.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-07-30 19:12:33) :
[b]Q'a monodryu mi t'aharrera 'etâ k'atrta yitkâ yi ha ga.[/b]
[qʼɑ monodʐju mi tʼæhæɻːeɻæ ʔetɒ kʼætʂtæ jitkɒ ji hæ gæ]
[g because]Q'a[/g] [g monad.F.P.INDF]monodryu[/g] [g DED]mi[/g] [g general.IND.ACT.PRS.IPFV]t'aharre[/g][g -3P.F]-ra[/g] [g EMPF.ADV]'etâ[/g] [g able_to.PAT.N.S.INDF]k'atrta[/g] [g do.INF]yitkâ[/g] [g 3S.N]yi[/g] [g ERG]ha[/g] [g ESS]ga[/g]
Because monads are so general in what they can do.
[b]Q'a monodryu mi t'aharrera 'etâ k'atrta yitkâ yi ha ga.[/b]
[qʼɑ monodʐju mi tʼæhæɻːeɻæ ʔetɒ kʼætʂtæ jitkɒ ji hæ gæ]
[g because]Q'a[/g] [g monad.F.P.INDF]monodryu[/g] [g DED]mi[/g] [g general.IND.ACT.PRS.IPFV]t'aharre[/g][g -3P.F]-ra[/g] [g EMPF.ADV]'etâ[/g] [g able_to.PAT.N.S.INDF]k'atrta[/g] [g do.INF]yitkâ[/g] [g 3S.N]yi[/g] [g ERG]ha[/g] [g ESS]ga[/g]
Because monads are so general in what they can do.
owned by Travis B., last edited 2014-07-30 20:07:53.
Speak in Your Conlang Thread (2014-07-30 20:06:38) :
[b]He ca mi yohotteta 'ekokâ foyorga "IO" camawnaj.[/b]
[he tɕæ mi johotːetæ ʔekokɒ ɸojoɻgæ ʔi ʔo tɕæmæwnædʑ]
[g but]He[/g] [g 3S.N]ca[/g] [g DED]mi[/g] [g easy.IND.ACT.PRS.IPFV]yohotte[/g][g -3S.N]-ta[/g] [g explain.INF]'ekokâ[/g] [g use.MAN.N.S.INDF]foyorga[/g] [g "IO"]"IO"[/g] [g POSS.3S.N-]ca-[/g][g monad.F.S.DEF]mawnaj.[/g]
But it is easy to explain how to use the IO monad.
[b]He ca mi yohotteta 'ekokâ foyorga "IO" camawnaj.[/b]
[he tɕæ mi johotːetæ ʔekokɒ ɸojoɻgæ ʔi ʔo tɕæmæwnædʑ]
[g but]He[/g] [g 3S.N]ca[/g] [g DED]mi[/g] [g easy.IND.ACT.PRS.IPFV]yohotte[/g][g -3S.N]-ta[/g] [g explain.INF]'ekokâ[/g] [g use.MAN.N.S.INDF]foyorga[/g] [g "IO"]"IO"[/g] [g POSS.3S.N-]ca-[/g][g monad.F.S.DEF]mawnaj.[/g]
But it is easy to explain how to use the IO monad.
owned by Travis B., last edited 2014-07-30 20:06:38.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 18:40:31) :
We'll use numbers then. And we'll make rainbow texts so everything looks gayer here.
We'll use numbers then. And we'll make rainbow texts so everything looks gayer here.
owned by Izambri, last edited 2014-07-30 18:40:31.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 16:30:15) :
Probably the CSS purifier's fault. But you can just use [style: color: #802090]n[/style][style: color: #8020A0]u[/style][style: color: #8020B0]m[/style][style: color: #8020C0]b[/style][style: color: #8020D0]e[/style][style: color: #8020E0]r[/style][style: color: #8020F0]s[/style]!
Probably the CSS purifier's fault. But you can just use [style: color: #802090]n[/style][style: color: #8020A0]u[/style][style: color: #8020B0]m[/style][style: color: #8020C0]b[/style][style: color: #8020D0]e[/style][style: color: #8020E0]r[/style][style: color: #8020F0]s[/style]!
owned by Rhetorica, last edited 2014-07-30 16:30:15.
happiness thread (2014-07-30 15:01:01) :
Metathesis might not actually be too difficult, though every time I've thought some thing like that I've been wrong. I get the feeling that the solution lies somewhere inside a LinkedHashMap, which might be a good way of doing this one thing in general.
Right now I'm finishing up adding support of legacy segmentation (that is, no special segmentation) and normalization control. The test version used canonical decomposition, and future versions will do so by default, but you can turn it ...
Metathesis might not actually be too difficult, though every time I've thought some thing like that I've been wrong. I get the feeling that the solution lies somewhere inside a LinkedHashMap, which might be a good way of doing this one thing in general.
Right now I'm finishing up adding support of legacy segmentation (that is, no special segmentation) and normalization control. The test version used canonical decomposition, and future versions will do so by default, but you can turn it ...
owned by Morrígan, last edited 2014-07-30 16:22:28.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 14:53:22) :
That or I'm doing something wrong.
[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s224/Izeru/Carones/nohos.png[/IMG]
That or I'm doing something wrong.
[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s224/Izeru/Carones/nohos.png[/IMG]
owned by Izambri, last edited 2014-07-30 14:54:32.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 14:50:49) :
Oh. An issue for the Bug thread?
Oh. An issue for the Bug thread?
owned by Jipí, last edited 2014-07-30 14:50:49.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 14:19:00) :
Blue: [style: color: blue]blue[/style]
Aqua: [style: color: aqua]aqua[/style]
Skyblue: [style: color: skyblue]sky blue[/style]
Deepskyblue: [style: color: deepskyblue]deep sky blue[/style]
Blue: [style: color: blue]blue[/style]
Aqua: [style: color: aqua]aqua[/style]
Skyblue: [style: color: skyblue]sky blue[/style]
Deepskyblue: [style: color: deepskyblue]deep sky blue[/style]
owned by Izambri, last edited 2014-07-30 14:19:00.
Coloured text? (2014-07-30 14:12:09) :
Since the style tag basically just turns everything you pass it into CSS styling, it supports [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value|ALL THE COLORS].
Since the style tag basically just turns everything you pass it into CSS styling, it supports [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value|ALL THE COLORS].
owned by Jipí, last edited 2014-07-30 14:13:29.
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