quoting Kereb:

I don't know if this side of the border counts for anything in this discussion but the /u/ among the very few in Vancouver who grew up in Vancouver is more back than Californian /u/ or what I think of as "Keanu u". It's not "back back, way in the back" but it's definitely not fronted as much as what you're talking about

So far as I'm concerned, yes it does count in this discussion. My dialect is a hell of a lot more similar to yours than it is to the EST folks'.

quoting Kereb:

also

quoting Rhetorica:

if Cascadia secedes, we're donating southern Alberta back to Texas. To hell with and his mannequinular Reaganophilic cronyism. Everything he does just smecks of waiting to happen.

if Cascadia secedes why would we take ANY part of Alberta with us??

I think she was speaking as the remaining part of Canada there.